Chiefs Are you worried about Sammy Watkins? - Page 3

rabblerouser · 12-08-2019, 09:33 PM

Dude disappears a lot. Drops some balls. Worry? Or no?

eDave · 12-08-2019, 10:14 PM

LOL. Man, I dorked up my posts. Nighty night.

chiefzilla1501 · 12-08-2019, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Most of these thoughts have come along in the last month when coincidentally (or not)... Mahomes has also been pretty bad.

Mahomes hasn't been bad. He just hasn't been the mvp level we're used to. But during that time, kelce has looked mostly good. Tyreek has looked great. Sammy has flat out not looked good.

Chief Pagan · 12-08-2019, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 493rd

BAH!!!

I think you meant Bah Humbug!

rabblerouser · 12-08-2019, 10:39 PM

Only one vote for Gaz?

stevieray · 12-08-2019, 10:46 PM

Hard to tell.

I will say this...Sometimes he doesn't look very motivated, but that could be totally off. He was beasting early on.

Megatron96 · 12-09-2019, 02:13 PM

Watkins had 4 catches for 50 yards. Over 12 yards/reception.

However, he was targeted 8 times, so 50% catch rate vs. tgts. Not so good.

But most of his targets were after Mahomes hurt his hand, and some of his throws after that injury were not well-thrown, lacking velocity for sure, and accuracy at times as well.

Looking at the season, it's obvious Watkins has under-performed overall. He's had one great game, a couple good games, and several games where he 'disappeared,' as described by the OP.

For the $$$, that's not up to par.

I stated at the beginning of the season that Sammy was going to be much better than he was last year, and that just hasn't happened. I wish that was different, but there it is.

I still hold out hope that he will play significantly better (just more consistently really, as when he does catch the ball, he's been very good) in the playoffs, and help us win a SB.

But unless he has a Jerry Rice-type of playoff run, I think the Chiefs have to trade him at season's end for whatever they can get for him.

But something we have to keep in mind is that Sammy, or some version of Sammy, is necessary to this offense. We need a bigger (larger catch radius/tough-to-tackle/physical), that runs good routes and has top-tier speed WR opposite Hill, period. That mis-match for opposing defenses is a big part of what makes the offense as explosive as it is when everything is clicking and everyone is healthy.

In other words, replacing Watkins with DRob/Hardman/Pringle is not going to work as well. Similar to how Damien Williams was never going to be a perfect replacement for K.Hunt. These two things are not the same.

So if and probably when the Chiefs send Watkins on his way, we need to replace him with someone very similar to him, but preferably more consistently available, and more consistent on the field.

Iconic · 12-09-2019, 02:14 PM

He's gone at the end of the season so who really cares about Watkins anymore.

DJJasonp · 12-09-2019, 02:20 PM

The look pat gives when they dont connect leads me to believe watkins sometimes doesnt run the right route......

Just a hunch.

Hoover · 12-09-2019, 02:22 PM

Veach is trading Sammy to the Bears in exchange for a year of Leonard Floyd.

Molitoth · 12-09-2019, 02:22 PM

I used to appreciate his effort, but this season it has been garbage.

He pisses me off more than impresses. Cya.

chiefzilla1501 · 12-09-2019, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJJasonp

The look pat gives when they dont connect leads me to believe watkins sometimes doesnt run the right route......

Just a hunch.

I think what bothers me is that he's not catching the catchable ones. Thought that was the big part of his game. That he catches everything. I also wonder if our receivers are getting really roughed up and if Sammy in particular is getting frustrated. See that look on kelces face a ton. Sammy... Yesterday was the second time this season he got in a fight with a cb after they got a little handsy with him.

milkshock · 12-09-2019, 02:43 PM

think he knows he is gone which is why his effort levels are questionable

lawrenceRaider · 12-09-2019, 03:33 PM

I don't. Y'all might want to though.

TomBarndtsTwin · 12-09-2019, 03:36 PM

Not really.

He’ll be gone in 6 more games.

C’est la vie.

Eleazar · 12-09-2019, 05:00 PM

He's a great player when he's healthy. The frequency of him being completely healthy is why we were able to get him in the first place. He's made some solid contributions even if he's not a world beater week in and week out.

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Megatron96 Suupraa Geniuuusss Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Phoenix, AZ Casino cash: $1980400	Watkins had 4 catches for 50 yards. Over 12 yards/reception. However, he was targeted 8 times, so 50% catch rate vs. tgts. Not so good. But most of his targets were after Mahomes hurt his hand, and some of his throws after that injury were not well-thrown, lacking velocity for sure, and accuracy at times as well. Looking at the season, it's obvious Watkins has under-performed overall. He's had one great game, a couple good games, and several games where he 'disappeared,' as described by the OP. For the $$$, that's not up to par. I stated at the beginning of the season that Sammy was going to be much better than he was last year, and that just hasn't happened. I wish that was different, but there it is. I still hold out hope that he will play significantly better (just more consistently really, as when he does catch the ball, he's been very good) in the playoffs, and help us win a SB. But unless he has a Jerry Rice-type of playoff run, I think the Chiefs have to trade him at season's end for whatever they can get for him. But something we have to keep in mind is that Sammy, or some version of Sammy, is necessary to this offense. We need a bigger (larger catch radius/tough-to-tackle/physical), that runs good routes and has top-tier speed WR opposite Hill, period. That mis-match for opposing defenses is a big part of what makes the offense as explosive as it is when everything is clicking and everyone is healthy. In other words, replacing Watkins with DRob/Hardman/Pringle is not going to work as well. Similar to how Damien Williams was never going to be a perfect replacement for K.Hunt. These two things are not the same. So if and probably when the Chiefs send Watkins on his way, we need to replace him with someone very similar to him, but preferably more consistently available, and more consistent on the field.
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Hoover Rufus Dawes Jr. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $1688179	Veach is trading Sammy to the Bears in exchange for a year of Leonard Floyd.
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milkshock Journeyman Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: London Casino cash: $2385150	think he knows he is gone which is why his effort levels are questionable
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Eleazar Beyond the Rapids Join Date: May 2003 Location: Langley, VA Casino cash: $-370000	He's a great player when he's healthy. The frequency of him being completely healthy is why we were able to get him in the first place. He's made some solid contributions even if he's not a world beater week in and week out.
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