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Old 12-30-2015, 12:48 PM  
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Old 01-15-2016, 08:20 AM   #151
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You know I watched this and it made me wonder what's in the water up there..everyone seems like they are missing chromosomes.
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In a somehwhat related note, supposedly SA molested his nephew.
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Old 01-15-2016, 10:18 AM   #152
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Old 01-15-2016, 10:57 AM   #153
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Old 01-15-2016, 11:05 AM   #154
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With all the anecdotes about Avery being a low life, I'm firmly in the camp that he probably murdered Halbach but Calumet and Manitowoc realized there wasn't enough concrete evidence on their first few days of the investigation to convict the literal poster boy of the Innocence Project, so they planted the key, bullets and the blood in the RAV4 to link a physical trail to SA.

Brennan Dassey's confession was meant to the be the slam dunk in order to both have a conspirator if the physical evidence wasn't enough as well as to allay notions of reasonable doubt in the minds of the jurors. Cynically, I think members of the Avery/Dassey clan sacrificed Brennan to ensure Steven got taken down, too.
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Old 01-15-2016, 11:46 AM   #155
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She needs to be punched in the face along with her twins. Could you imagine being raised by her, yet the pour sap married to her? They will probably turn out being serial killers. I do not condone punching women or babies, she is the exception.
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Old 01-15-2016, 11:52 AM   #156
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You could tell that Colborn guy was lying lol. Holy crap. I don't know if he did it or not, but either way, that sheriff's department and county is corrupt and shady as hell.
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Old 01-15-2016, 12:03 PM   #157
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The 1st time I saw that, I honestly thought his attorney was just trying to make a point. Trying to make a video to show how suggestible Dassey was to show to the court. Then it occurred to me they are actually trying to make this poor idiot kid say he did the these things, because they are lazy.
I thought the same exact thing.
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Old 01-15-2016, 12:23 PM   #158
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I still don't believe in the motive.

Avery was about to get PAID.
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Old 01-15-2016, 12:35 PM   #159
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I'm still wondering what the motive is supposed to be...
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The other Dassey boy came out of nowhere and gave zero fux about his uncle. His testimony was equal a blow as the fbi blood test results.
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Old 01-15-2016, 06:29 PM   #161
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The other Dassey boy came out of nowhere and gave zero fux about his uncle. His testimony was equal a blow as the fbi blood test results.
It also seems like he was coached to produce hearsay since his statements about the joke weren't in his statements to police and contradict the actual person who was in conversation with Avery and that persons statement to police.

The judge in the case was monumentally unfriendly to the defense in his decisions.
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It also seems like he was coached to produce hearsay since his statements about the joke weren't in his statements to police and contradict the actual person who was in conversation with Avery and that persons statement to police.

The judge in the case was monumentally unfriendly to the defense in his decisions.
The judge was just as crooked as the cops who planted the evidence. They were likely all in on it together.
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My wife and I thought it was strange how the police insisted that Averys girlfriend Jodi stay away from him during the trial. Interesting article popped up today...looks like that may have been staged to get her out of an abusive situation with Avery.

http://news.yahoo.com/steven-averys-...170646126.html

Steven Avery's Ex-Girlfriend's Confession Might Change Our Minds About His Innocence
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In a shocking update Wednesday night, the ex-fiancée of convicted murderer Steven Avery told the world "he's not innocent." Avery, the subject of Netflix's popular crime documentary Making a Murderer, is presumed by many to be innocent in the 2005 murder of Teresa Halbach, a local photographer.

However, Jodi Stachowski's interview with HLN's Nancy Grace show has many viewers scratching their heads. "Steven's the one person I don't trust," Stachowski said in the interview, according to the Daily Beast. "He's like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, behind closed doors, he's a monster." This revelation comes as a surprise to those who recognize Stachowski as a caring partner to Avery.

Stachowski told HLN senior producer Natisha Lance that she knew Avery was guilty of murder "because of the way I know he is." When the interviewer asked Stachowski if Avery was capable of murder, Stachowski acknowledged that he could have been.

"Yeah," Stachowski told Lance during the interview, as reported by the Daily Beast. "Hurting people. He told me once, excuse my language, 'all bitches owe him' because of the one that sent him to prison the first time. We all owed him."

Making a Murderer follows Avery, who spent 18 years in prison after being convicted of sexual assault in 1985. He was then exonerated and released in 2003, and then sentenced for the 2005 murder of Halbach, although the evidence is unclear. But Stachowski believes the time has come to reveal "what a monster he is," she said during the interview. "He's not innocent."

Avery met Stachowski in 2003, after his release from prison. Stachowski allegedly told directors Laura Ricciardi and Moira Demos that she was not interested in being on Making A Murderer. "Steven called me and told me that if I didn't say anything good and nice about him, I'd pay," Stachowski told Lance, according to MTV. "He'd beat me."

Twitter had mixed reactions toward Stachowski's revelation, much of it skepticism.

Stachowski's two-year relationship with Avery was troubled, and filled with alleged abuse, according to Stachowski. "I ate two boxes of rat poison just so I could go to the hospital and get away from him and ask them to get the police to help me," she told Lance during the segment, according to the Daily Beast.

During the interview, Stachowski recalled Avery threatening to burn her house down, verbally threatening her and physically assaulting her. "I was in a bath and he threatened to throw a blow dryer in there, and he told me that he'd be able to get away with it," Stachowski told Lance.

"He'd beat me all the time, punch me, throw me against the wall. I tried to leave and he smashed the windshield out of my car so I couldn't leave him."

When asked if she believes Avery is guilty of killing Halbach, Stachowski said, "I do, because he threatened to kill me and my family and a friend of mine."

Stachowski, who maintains that she has never watched an episode of Making A Murderer, said the documentary is "all lies."

"It was all an act," Stachowski told Lance, the Daily Beast reported. "He told me how to act. He said smile, be happy. I didn't know what to do. I didn't want to get hurt."
Wow that is crazy and strange she would act like that. He was already behind bars, maybe she just wanted to put on this act until he was actually convicted. That is kind of nuts. Makes me question his innocence even more, but obv the cops did plant evidence
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Old 01-17-2016, 08:20 PM   #164
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Remember the letter exchanges between him and his first wife...some disturbing stuff in those as well. Interesting she wasn't a part of the documentary at all and neither were any of the kids from I recall.
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Old 01-18-2016, 10:38 AM   #165
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I thought this was an excellent piece in The New Yorker. Long, but well worth the read, IMO:

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/20...dead-certainty

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Toward the end of the series, Dean Strang, Steven Avery’s defense lawyer, notes that most of the problems in the criminal-justice system stem from “unwarranted certitude”—what he calls “a tragic lack of humility of everyone who participates.” Ultimately, “Making a Murderer” shares that flaw; it does not challenge our yearning for certainty or do the difficult work of helping to foster humility. Instead, it swaps one absolute for another—and, in doing so, comes to resemble the system it seeks to correct.
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