Daniel Jeremiah: Many expect Chiefs to trade up for a CB

[Shag]

Not real surprising, but from here: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...oking-to-trade

Chiefs are a candidate to trade up for a CB: The Chiefs don't own a first-round pick in this year's draft (they dealt that pick away in the Patrick Mahomes trade last year), but I won't be surprised if they move up from where they're picking in the second round (No. 54 overall). They have a glaring need at cornerback and the top cover men will be long gone by the time they are on the clock if they stay put at No. 54. They need to get into the range of picks 35-40 in order to secure a Day One starter at that position, and many around the league expect them to make that happen.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by BossChief

I think I might be getting misunderstood here.

I’m not interested in trading a bunch of picks this year to move up.

I’m interested in moving the Peters pick to move up as well as the other 2 or 3 from next year to do so because of the value we would be getting for those picks this year as opposed to next.

Ok, now that's an argument I can at least respect. I can't argue if next year's talent is better or worse than this year since I really haven't followed the college game for the last 2 to 3 years. Now I mostly wait until pre-combine and start watching youtube highlights of top prospects and positions of need (this year would be G, CB, NT/DT, etc.)

I guess for me it depends on the situation. If a clear top 10 talent falls to pick 20 then yes, it might be time to move. If a top 15 player falls to 28 the same.

So I guess I'm saying if it's a person we have rated much higher than the current position AND we get a fair trade do it...

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by O.city

I'd just sit in those rounds in that case and keep our picks.

5 picks in rounds 2,3,4 currently.

Just go from there.

Exactly

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

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and the other comment about extra picks


Tyreek, Bro

Tyreek

You're a ****ing idiot.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

Exactly

That would be my preference as well. We can add good talent in rounds 2-4 and avoid the big 1st round contracts at the same time...

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Rausch

Hill, Kelcee, Hunt, Houston, and Doc Tardiff were all taken after the 2nd round.

The problem isn't the round it's the talent evaluation...




Edit: Houston was a 2nd round pick...

Iirc Houston was a 3rd

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Rausch

That would be my preference as well. We can add good talent in rounds 2-4 and avoid the big 1st round contracts at the same time...

You actually want the first round contract, especially a late first. You get that cheap 5th year if the guy hits.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Rausch

That would be my preference as well. We can add good talent in rounds 2-4 and avoid the big 1st round contracts at the same time...

If the meat is 3 4 and 5 why would you trade multiple of those picks for one? That line of thinking makes no sense

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

If the meat is 3 4 and 5 why would you trade multiple of those picks for one? That line of thinking makes no sense

Who is saying to do that?

[Willie Lanier]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

Iirc Houston was a 3rd

Indeed he was

Slipped because of a failed drug test (weed) at the combine

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Who is saying to do that?

Well everyone that wants to trade up.
I think you guys are being vey unrealistic on what that takes.

But we will see

[SAUTO]

I mean you seriously think these teams want picks this year in rounds 2 through 4 but are going to be happy with next year's rams pick and this year's 2nd?

That's not helping this year.


This year's 3rd and a 2nd next is even more idiotic

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

If the meat is 3 4 and 5 why would you trade multiple of those picks for one? That line of thinking makes no sense

I'm saying I wouldn't unless some highly talented guy fell.

Think Randy Moss or Aaron Rogers.

My preference is to stay put...

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

Well everyone that wants to trade up.
I think you guys are being vey unrealistic on what that takes.

But we will see

I used the draft value chart for scenarios I proposed and none of them included using multiple picks this year to move up.

I want them to use the Peters pick from LA and possibly another 2 or 3 from next year depending on how the draft plays out and who’s on the board.

If this draft has (and it does) 3rd round talents that project to fall to the mid 4th, I have no problem moving a pick or 2 in next years draft to go get them now.

I want Mahomes to not just score a lot, but to win a lot.

Load the defense and take advantage of the true strengths of the 2018 draft to do so.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

I mean you seriously think these teams want picks this year in rounds 2 through 4 but are going to be happy with next year's rams pick and this year's 2nd?

That's not helping this year.


This year's 3rd and a 2nd next is even more idiotic

Look through Bill Billicecks draft trade history.

He loves trading down for future picks in trades just like that.

He’s at pick 31 and Philly wants to move down and has 32. If we threw them a 2+4 this year and the Peters pick, that’s probably a done deal.

[Shoes]

Originally Posted by BossChief

I used the draft value chart for scenarios I proposed and none of them included using multiple picks this year to move up.

I want them to use the Peters pick from LA and possibly another 2 or 3 from next year depending on how the draft plays out and who’s on the board.

If this draft has (and it does) 3rd round talents that project to fall to the mid 4th, I have no problem moving a pick or 2 in next years draft to go get them now.

I want Mahomes to not just score a lot, but to win a lot.

Load the defense and take advantage of the true strengths of the 2018 draft to do so.

I don't know how realistic it is to think that many teams are going to want to trade down for picks in next season's draft. I mean a few trades happened last year that were for next seasons selection:

Saints receive:
2017 3rd round pick (No. 67)

49ers receive:
2018 2nd round pick
2017 7th round pick (No. 229)
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Broncos receive:
2018 4th round pick

49ers receive:
2017 5th round pick (No. 177)
Kapri Bibbs
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Jets receive:
2018 5th round pick

Cowboys receive:
2017 6th round pick (No. 191)

So it seems any draft pick in 2019 is valued as 1 round later in 2018 (2019 Rams 2nd round pick valued as a 3rd round pick in 2018). Further more lets look at some early 2nd round pick trades from last season:


Cardinals receive:
2017 second-round pick (No. 36)

Bears receive:
2017 second-round pick (No. 45)
2017 fourth-round pick (No. 119)
2017 sixth-round pick (No. 197)
2018 fourth-round pick

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Bills receive:
2017 second-round pick (No. 37)
2017 fifth-round pick (No. 149)

Rams receive:
2017 second-round pick (No. 44)
2017 third-round pick (No. 91)
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Vikings receive:
2017 second-round pick (No. 41)

Bengals receive:
2017 second-round pick (No. 48)
2017 fourth-round pick (No. 128)

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Bills receive:
2017 second-round pick (No. 63)

Falcons receive:
2017 third-round pick (No. 75)
2017 fifth-round pick (No. 149)
2017 fifth-round pick (No. 156)

Out of all those trades the Bills dropped the most by 12 spots- I just think teams who want to move down do so to recoup draft picks for this season specifically. Maybe there's another Kamara trade out there to acquire some more 2018 draft capital but it's not gonna be an easy task to load up in this draft class. We just don't have the picks to do so.