Movies and TV Ed Harris takes Top villain role in HBOs "Westworld" reboot - Page 26

Deberg_1990 · 08-11-2014, 03:51 PM

Sweet. Loved this film when I was a kid. It's ripe for a reboot.

Doesn't sound like he's playing the Yul Brenner role though

http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/08/11/ed-harris-westworld/

Image Credit: WireImage.com
Ed Harris is coming to series TV: The Abyss and Apollo 13 actor has signed on as the Big Bad in HBO’s Westworld reboot.
The four-time Oscar nominee’s character is called The Man in Black, and is described as “the distillation of pure villainy into one man.” He joins previously cast star — and fellow series television newcomer—Anthony Hopkins, along with Evan Rachel Wood, Jeffrey Wright, and Shannon Woodward.

The Warner Bros.-produced sci-fi pilot produced by J.J Abrams, Jerry Weintraub, and Bryan Burk updates Michael Crichton’s 1973 classic film about a theme park where androids fulfill dark human desires. Harris’ description might sound like he’s playing the Yul Brynner killer-cowboy robot role, but it seems like actor Rodrigo Santoro was tapped for that part—and online production rumors suggest The Man in Black is actually a human character who sadistically abuses the androids.

Harris will soon be seen the feature film Run All Night, starring opposite Liam Neeson and Joel Kinnaman. Harris won a Golden Globe and was nominated for an Emmy for his work in HBO’s Game Change.

listopencil · 11-29-2016, 11:16 AM

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I'm not sure if Delores goes on a killing spree. We know she killed Arnold, and I think is probably the one Teddy is talking about when he says something to the effect of "he went away for a while, and came back with some strange ideas." Which refers to her meetings with Arnold. So in that sense, she is kind of Wyatt. But I think the bulk of the story Teddy remembers about Wyatt is stuff he actually has done himself.

But did Delores really, physically kill Arnold, or is her becoming sentient just the reason he was killed? Did Ford find out about Delores and Arnold's meetings, and then take over Teddy like "the devil" and have him go on a killing spree that took out Arnold in the process? Maybe something to that effect.

I'm thinking that Ford knew about Arnold's meetings with Dolores, that they were working together towards making Westworld seems as real as possible; Ford using storylines and Arnold concentrating on the hosts themselves. I'm completely suspicious of Teddy's involvement since Ford installed the Wyatt story in him.

Beef Supreme · 11-29-2016, 11:37 AM

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I'm thinking that Ford knew about Arnold's meetings with Dolores, that they were working together towards making Westworld seems as real as possible; Ford using storylines and Arnold concentrating on the hosts themselves. I'm completely suspicious of Teddy's involvement since Ford installed the Wyatt story in him.

Ford installed a Wyatt story, not the Wyatt story. When the whore that used to be the door greeter talks to Teddy, he starts to remember what really happened, and he is no longer wearing a military outfit, but a sheriff's outfit and he isn't killing soldiers, he is killing townspeople.

BWillie · 11-29-2016, 12:36 PM

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Yeah his name is Ptolme Slocum. I've cast him in an Emerald Nuts Breakfast on The Go commercial and a Trulia commercial. He's great. He was also the pedo school bus driver in Preacher on AMC

Says he's from Kenya on IMDB?

listopencil · 11-29-2016, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefTablet

Ford installed a Wyatt story, not the Wyatt story. When the whore that used to be the door greeter talks to Teddy, he starts to remember what really happened, and he is no longer wearing a military outfit, but a sheriff's outfit and he isn't killing soldiers, he is killing townspeople.

Yep, you're right, I'd forgotten about the switch from soldier to sheriff. But I thought they were killing townspeople as well in his flashbacks before then? I might be confusing Dolores flashbacks with Teddy flashbacks.

listopencil · 11-29-2016, 02:40 PM

I have a feeling that I'll be binge watching the entire series after the finale.

Beef Supreme · 11-29-2016, 02:42 PM

Yeah, my co-worker has already been doing a re-watch. I'm waiting until after next week to re-watch.

listopencil · 11-29-2016, 02:50 PM

And I still think the multiple time periods was a cheap storytelling idea but I have to admit that they are handling it well. It does blend well with how the hosts' memories work, and the effects of loops on their characters. It has also opened up an interesting way to tell the story without tons of exposition. I tend to dislike shows that explain everything, and I tend to like shows that force you to come to your own conclusions.

Beef Supreme · 11-29-2016, 03:18 PM

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Yep, you're right, I'd forgotten about the switch from soldier to sheriff. But I thought they were killing townspeople as well in his flashbacks before then? I might be confusing Dolores flashbacks with Teddy flashbacks.

I'm pretty sure in the earlier flashbacks, Teddy was wearing a blue soldier outfit and killing guys in blue soldier outfits — so killing his own people. Later he is a sheriff killing the townspeople. Killing his own people.

The memories Ford implanted for his new story arc have all seemed to parallel actual events, but obviously he changed some stuff. And my guess is he invented Wyatt as a separate entity that has some parallel to things both Delores and Teddy actually did. Delores with her "strange ideas" and Teddy with his killing spree.

Now what actually caused Teddy to go on the killing spree is an even bigger leap at this point, but saying he felt "possessed by the devil" sure sounds like Ford made him do it, just like he had Bernard kill a couple of people.

Discuss Thrower · 11-29-2016, 03:36 PM

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And I still think the multiple time periods was a cheap storytelling idea but I have to admit that they are handling it well. It does blend well with how the hosts' memories work, and the effects of loops on their characters. It has also opened up an interesting way to tell the story without tons of exposition. I tend to dislike shows that explain everything, and I tend to like shows that force you to come to your own conclusions.

Also they apparently want us to see the show as Hosts see Westworld. Notice we didn't see the door Ford popped out of when Arnold came to the cottage the first time.

Seeing two timelines play before us without knowing exactly the order in which they truly occurred is a feature, not a bug.

KC_Lee · 11-29-2016, 03:48 PM

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I'm pretty sure in the earlier flashbacks, Teddy was wearing a blue soldier outfit and killing guys in blue soldier outfits — so killing his own people. Later he is a sheriff killing the townspeople. Killing his own people.

The memories Ford implanted for his new story arc have all seemed to parallel actual events, but obviously he changed some stuff. And my guess is he invented Wyatt as a separate entity that has some parallel to things both Delores and Teddy actually did. Delores with her "strange ideas" and Teddy with his killing spree.

Now what actually caused Teddy to go on the killing spree is an even bigger leap at this point, but saying he felt "possessed by the devil" sure sounds like Ford made him do it, just like he had Bernard kill a couple of people.

What if we have a "God vs. Satan" thing going on; Ford being the Devil and Arnold being God. One seeks to control / destroy the other to free and bring life.

The hosts hearing voices has been mentioned a few times, with Arnold being the voice. What if Ford is also a voice countering Arnold?

Beef Supreme · 11-29-2016, 04:00 PM

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What if we have a "God vs. Satan" thing going on; Ford being the Devil and Arnold being God. One seeks to control / destroy the other to free and bring life.

The hosts hearing voices has been mentioned a few times, with Arnold being the voice. What if Ford is also a voice countering Arnold?

I'm totally on board with that. I'm sure at some level this is part of the story, whether or not they are ever going to be overt about it.

The crazy part is, in the context of the story, we're all pretty much rooting for the robots because most of the humans are horrible people. If this were happening in real life, I would still think they were horrible people, but my suggestion would be to burn the place to the ground.

BWillie · 11-29-2016, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Lee

What if we have a "God vs. Satan" thing going on; Ford being the Devil and Arnold being God. One seeks to control / destroy the other to free and bring life.

The hosts hearing voices has been mentioned a few times, with Arnold being the voice. What if Ford is also a voice countering Arnold?

I think that's exactly whats happening.

listopencil · 11-29-2016, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Lee

What if we have a "God vs. Satan" thing going on; Ford being the Devil and Arnold being God. One seeks to control / destroy the other to free and bring life.

The hosts hearing voices has been mentioned a few times, with Arnold being the voice. What if Ford is also a voice countering Arnold?

Yeah. That's the impression that I get as well:

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With all of this insinuation of Ford playing god, Arnold seems to be the one who is really doing it. Acting as the voice of a god in a bicameral mind. If anything Arnold is God and Ford is Satan.

listopencil · 11-29-2016, 07:56 PM

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I'm pretty sure in the earlier flashbacks, Teddy was wearing a blue soldier outfit and killing guys in blue soldier outfits — so killing his own people. Later he is a sheriff killing the townspeople. Killing his own people.

The memories Ford implanted for his new story arc have all seemed to parallel actual events, but obviously he changed some stuff. And my guess is he invented Wyatt as a separate entity that has some parallel to things both Delores and Teddy actually did. Delores with her "strange ideas" and Teddy with his killing spree.

Now what actually caused Teddy to go on the killing spree is an even bigger leap at this point, but saying he felt "possessed by the devil" sure sounds like Ford made him do it, just like he had Bernard kill a couple of people.

Hmmm. How about a shoot out between Dolores (controlled by Arnold) and Teddy (controlled by Ford)? With the townspeople being a combination of innocent bystander hosts, and hosts who have gone insane from the voices.

KChiefs1 · 11-30-2016, 11:29 AM

Is Ford a host?

https://youtu.be/Q_gbgKTnFXc

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