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Old 01-23-2011, 11:58 AM  
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Been a while since we had a guns n' ammo discussion.


Some of you are AR shooters Im sure. Im looking at a Colt 6920. Will be my first AR. Picked up a Glock this fall and really enjoy shooting it. Any feedback on that weapon?



Anyone else been in a buy/sell/trade mood with hardware?

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Old 06-17-2013, 03:53 PM   #5266
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I don't believe it's a Saiga or Wasr. I also don't think it has been fired much if it all. When he gets it I'll get the specifics of it, upload a few pics. The owner of it currently is a class III dealer in Texas, some ATF guy.
If it's russian it's almost certainly a saiga. The only other russian guns are vepr rifles and I'm generally not a fan of them because they have a chunk taken out of rear of the receiver for sporting compliance issues.

There really are two classes of saiga's one is the factory 'converted' models they were brought in by Aresnal before(labeled Legion) now are brought in by FIME group. Then you have the saiga sporting rifles that people convert. Some of those are done well, many are home jobs. Pictures will be useful to tell not only parts but also condition. As much information about it you can get will help evaluate value.

For magazines the question is always how rare they are. This is a decent site to show but I'm not always sure how up to date it is.

http://home.comcast.net/~shooter2_in...mag_guide.html

The more rare a magazine is the more valuable it is. I own 1 Tula plum that I got to go with my 86 AKSU build.
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Old 06-17-2013, 04:45 PM   #5267
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What do you guys price the 74 at with the 6 mags, trade value wise?
Its hard to put an estimate on a 74 without knowing more details. It could be a side folding SGL-31(which currently retail new for over $1,200), or some POS that Bubba built in his garage.

Mags - If they're Tapco, they're junk and don't have much trade value. Stick with the military surplus mags, like the Bulgarian Circle 10's, Russian plums, or East German bakelites. The going price for these from online vendors are anywhere between $40-$60 in new unissued condition, depending on where you get them from. If it isn't milsurp, don't bother with it.
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Old 06-17-2013, 06:42 PM   #5268
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Old 06-17-2013, 06:53 PM   #5269
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Shotgun warning.

I've been thinking about getting one of these:



Looks and shoots like an AR, but it's a shotgun. You can get 5 or 10 round mags for it. No loading shells one at a time. Price isn't bad. But then I saw one in action yesterday at a 3 gun shoot. Man, what a turd. It literally jammed after every shot (all 13 the poor bastard took) until he finally quit and borrowed somebody else's shotgun to finish the shoot.

I'm not saying they're all like that, but my God, what a brokedick piece of garbage that one was. Buyer beware.
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Old 06-17-2013, 07:08 PM   #5270
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Old 06-17-2013, 07:44 PM   #5271
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Shotgun warning.

I've been thinking about getting one of these:



Looks and shoots like an AR, but it's a shotgun. You can get 5 or 10 round mags for it. No loading shells one at a time. Price isn't bad. But then I saw one in action yesterday at a 3 gun shoot. Man, what a turd. It literally jammed after every shot (all 13 the poor bastard took) until he finally quit and borrowed somebody else's shotgun to finish the shoot.

I'm not saying they're all like that, but my God, what a brokedick piece of garbage that one was. Buyer beware.
Seems like everything Turkish is protesting these days! Cool concept but where it's made has always made me nervous like the UTAS which has a reputation for jamming! The only thing Turkish I'd use right now would be made by MKE heh and that Turkish made on German tooling!
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Old 06-17-2013, 08:54 PM   #5272
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Turkish, like CrazyPhuD said. Called the MKA 1919.

If only it didn't suck.
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Old 06-18-2013, 02:10 PM   #5273
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I guess I'll post this here. Probably belongs in a DC thread, but I'm not setting foot in there.

Yesterday my local Walmart emptied the gun cabinet and is apparently done selling them, and I'm told all of 'em in MD/DE have done the same. I don't know why and I don't know what it means going forward, and I don't think the news has caught wind of it yet. But there it is.
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Old 06-18-2013, 02:16 PM   #5274
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I guess I'll post this here. Probably belongs in a DC thread, but I'm not setting foot in there.

Yesterday my local Walmart emptied the gun cabinet and is apparently done selling them, and I'm told all of 'em in MD/DE have done the same. I don't know why and I don't know what it means going forward, and I don't think the news has caught wind of it yet. But there it is.
Sad, but not surprising. Sounds like you're just too close to the pit of liberal hell otherwise known as the northeast US.

FWIW, Walmarts in Illinois don't sell guns anymore (at least the ones in the Chicago area). I've lived up here long enough that it seems strange to see guns in them when I go back to Missouri.
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Okay serious question. I've had shotguns in the past, looking for an inexpensive weaoib for defense (home defense not carry).

Torn between pistol and rifle, and what caliber. Any suggestions taken por favor.
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Okay serious question. I've had shotguns in the past, looking for an inexpensive weaoib for defense (home defense not carry).

Torn between pistol and rifle, and what caliber. Any suggestions taken por favor.
For me, it's the XDm 9mm, loaded with Glaser safety slugs. I live in a condo with common wall neighbors. For me, the rifles are more of a SHTF gun.

I would probably approach this differently if I lived in a house, and definitely if I lived in the country.
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For me, it's the XDm 9mm, loaded with Glaser safety slugs. I live in a condo with common wall neighbors. For me, the rifles are more of a SHTF gun.

I would probably approach this differently if I lived in a house, and definitely if I lived in the country.
I'm leaning towards rifle, and leaning towards one that can be doubled up for hunting.
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I'm leaning towards rifle, and leaning towards one that can be doubled up for hunting.
What are you wanting to hunt?
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What are you wanting to hunt?
More than likely deer. Basically looking for the best all purpose gun out there.
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More than likely deer. Basically looking for the best all purpose gun out there.
Spending a little or a lot? You might consider an AR10, which is basically an AR that shoots .308 rounds.

I don't know if I'd want to be shooting one in the house, though.
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