Would you consider Josh Jacobs at 29?

staylor26 · 02-05-2019, 07:56 PM

Just got done watching his tape, and I’d have to say I’d be tempted. Normally I’m against a RB in the 1st, but this guy truly has elite upside. He runs very hard, he’s quick with good speed, he can catch the ball out of the backfield and is damgerous in space, and he can block/pass protect very well. He has some ridiculous blocks in his highlight video.

Would you trade our 1st for a guy like Kamara on a 4 year rookie contract with the 5th year option? That’s incredible value that we’re honestly unlikely to get at corner or safety all the way down at 29 for instance.

I still probably wouldn’t do it, but I’d be lying if I said I wouldn’t consider it.

O.city · 02-05-2019, 08:03 PM

No

Never

BryanBusby · 02-05-2019, 08:03 PM

With how many needs the Chiefs have right now, I would not.

staylor26 · 02-05-2019, 08:07 PM

Lol I knew this wouldn’t be a popular idea on CP.

Again, small chance I pull the trigger, but if we sign a couple defensive starters in free agency and a #2 TE, I’d be tempted.

RunKC · 02-05-2019, 10:14 PM

Yes absolutely. Nerds can figure stats and what not, but the foundation to playoff football is stopping the run and running the ball.

DJ's left nut · 02-05-2019, 10:34 PM

Willie Lanier · 02-06-2019, 12:08 AM

Not just no but HELL NO

We have far too many needs superseding tailback to address...

I wouldn't be mad if the first rounder was on offense, but that position is at the very least solid

O.city · 02-06-2019, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Yes absolutely. Nerds can figure stats and what not, but the foundation to playoff football is stopping the run and running the ball.

Nah.

The pats ran for all those yards against kc and stopped the run and should have lost.

You can find rbs everywhere.

htismaqe · 02-06-2019, 10:18 AM

O.city · 02-06-2019, 10:28 AM

Even if he turns into an elite RB, do you get the value you would from a really good say, corner or safety or DL?

I just don't think there is a lot of difference between an elite RB and a really good RB. So much depends on the OL, the scheme etc. that I think you can pretty much take a guy every so many years in the 3 or 4 round, run him down and pick up another one.

The shelf life is so short, even taking them in the first and getting 5 years, you may or may not get 5 years out of him physically.

Look at it this way, the Giants took Barkley at what, 2? He was the rookie of the year, looked awesome. I still think it was probably the wrong choice as long as they have Eli.

El Jefe · 02-06-2019, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Even if he turns into an elite RB, do you get the value you would from a really good say, corner or safety or DL?

I just don't think there is a lot of difference between an elite RB and a really good RB. So much depends on the OL, the scheme etc. that I think you can pretty much take a guy every so many years in the 3 or 4 round, run him down and pick up another one.

The shelf life is so short, even taking them in the first and getting 5 years, you may or may not get 5 years out of him physically.

Look at it this way, the Giants took Barkley at what, 2? He was the rookie of the year, looked awesome. I still think it was probably the wrong choice as long as they have Eli.

Agree completely, look at Zeke, best RB in football, but he cant win the game himself.

O.city · 02-06-2019, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by El Jefe

Agree completely, look at Zeke, best RB in football, but he cant win the game himself.

I've had this conversation before, but I guess we can again LOL>

Zeke is for sure a badass dude. Great RB. Elite, top of the line RB.

I still think the Cowboys would have been better served taking Ramsey there and a RB later.

RunKC · 02-06-2019, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Nah.

The pats ran for all those yards against kc and stopped the run and should have lost.

You can find rbs everywhere.

I’d prefer TJ Yeldon, but I’m just saying I wouldn’t rule it out. If the board is bare at 29 I would rather take Jacobs than a lesser player to simply reach for defense.

O.city · 02-06-2019, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

I’d prefer TJ Yeldon, but I’m just saying I wouldn’t rule it out. If the board is bare at 29 I would rather take Jacobs than a lesser player to simply reach for defense.

If the board is that bare, they've set it wrong.

Year after year we see RB's come from late in the draft. Why would we take one that early.

htismaqe · 02-06-2019, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

If the board is that bare, they've set it wrong.

Year after year we see RB's come from late in the draft. Why would we take one that early.

This.

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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2834064	Even if he turns into an elite RB, do you get the value you would from a really good say, corner or safety or DL? I just don't think there is a lot of difference between an elite RB and a really good RB. So much depends on the OL, the scheme etc. that I think you can pretty much take a guy every so many years in the 3 or 4 round, run him down and pick up another one. The shelf life is so short, even taking them in the first and getting 5 years, you may or may not get 5 years out of him physically. Look at it this way, the Giants took Barkley at what, 2? He was the rookie of the year, looked awesome. I still think it was probably the wrong choice as long as they have Eli.
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