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duncan_idaho · 06:46 AM

It's the end of the world as we know it... and we feel... fine?

2018 is a season of transition for the Royals, or at least it is at this point. Dayton Moore is back. Will he swing full into THE PROCESS 2.0? Or will he try to load up again and make some reload magic happen?

Pending Free Agents:
1B | Eric Hosmer | San Diego Padres, 8 years, $144 million ($5 million signing bonus; $20 million/year in Yrs 1-5; $13 million/year in Yrs 6-8 wth player opt out)

Spoiler!

3B | Mike Moustaskas | Kansas City Royas, 1, $6.5 million

Spoiler!

CF | Lorenzo Cain | Milwaukee Brewers, 5 years, $80 million

Spoiler!

RP | Mike Minor | Texas Rangers, 3, $28 million

Spoiler!

SP | Jason Vargas | New York Mets, 2, $16 million

Spoiler!

SS | Alcides Escobar | Kansas City Royals, 1, $2.5 million

Spoiler!

2018 MLB Draft Picks
#18
#33 - Compensation (Eric Hosmer)
#34 - Compensation (Lorenzo Cain)
#40 (Competitive Balance Round A)

Comp picks explanation:

Spoiler!

2018 Draft Names to Watch

RHP Kumar Rocker, N Oconnee HS, Georgia.

Spoiler!

OF Jarred Kelenic, Waukasha West HS, WI

Spoiler!

1B Triston Casas, American Heritage HS (FL).

Spoiler!

RHP Carter Stewart, Eau de Gallie HS (Ga).

Spoiler!

ANY Any, Any (Any). Any current top projected pick who slides for injury concerns. Includes current top prospect prospect SP Brady Singer, U of Florida.

tk13 · 02-17-2018, 08:05 PM

The Rays acquired CJ Cron from the Angels, then turned around and cut Corey Dickerson, who was the starting DH for the American League in the All-Star game last year. Figure that one out.

Corey Dickerson was just DFA’d by the #Rays to make room for CJ Cron via a trade from the #Angels for a PTBNL. Dickerson was a 2.7 WAR player in 2017 ($5.95m in 2018). Cron, a 0.8 WAR player in 2017 ($2.3m in 2018). That’s official.
— Michael Baron (@michaelgbaron) February 18, 2018

duncan_idaho · 02-17-2018, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RubberSponge

Like with the majority of prospects as young as Gore, there is a reality that comes with that. 2020/2021 arrival would mean everything went fantastically in his development and there were no set backs.

Oh, absolutely. But the special ones stand out. Gore's combination of stuff + pitchability + raw tools is rare, rare, and it's obvious watching him. Very few prospects come through with his combination of amazing raw stuff and feel for pitching.

If he can build up to a full workload and maintain the stuff throughout it, he's going to be a star. Literally the only question is if he can maintain his velocity and sharpness through 180+ innings. Time to go on that one, but there are no logical warning signs against it.

duncan_idaho · 02-17-2018, 08:17 PM

I'd be calling Corey Dickerson right now. What a weird, weird decision by the Rays.

They're both DH types, and Dickerson is a lot better. Literally WTF.

BWillie · 02-17-2018, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seaofred

I think Moose will age better than Hos. Hos has a long swing and as he gets older it will be tough for him to keep his bat speed up to keep up with fastballs.

Yep. Name an old player with a crazy loopy swing who can still hit into their middle 30s.

tk13 · 02-17-2018, 09:10 PM

Apparently Tampa has decided to wait until the 1st week of Spring Training to tank their team.

Sources: Jake Odorizzi is going to Minnesota. Shortstop Jermaine Palacios is part of the package headed back to Tampa Bay.
— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) February 18, 2018

tk13 · 02-17-2018, 09:13 PM

Check that, it's a one for one trade. Did someone hack the Rays front office and start making moves?

To be clear, Palacios is the entire return to the Rays for Odorizzi. It’s a one-for-one deal with the Twins according to multiple sources
— Mark Feinsand (@Feinsand) February 18, 2018

jd1020 · 02-17-2018, 09:20 PM

Rays DFA Dickerson to open up a spot on the roster for Cron and then trade Odorizzi for an A ball prospect minutes later... what am I missing here?

Coach · 02-17-2018, 09:20 PM

Yes to Corey Dickerson. Projected .268/.316/.484 with a OPS of .800 with 25 HR's. The downside is that he strikes out way too much for my liking of 137K's to 40 walks. But I'm speculating that a possible 1.5 to 2.5 WAR range type of a guy, the Royals should look into him for the DH position.

Coach · 02-17-2018, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13

Check that, it's a one for one trade. Did someone hack the Rays front office and start making moves?

To be clear, Palacios is the entire return to the Rays for Odorizzi. It’s a one-for-one deal with the Twins according to multiple sources
— Mark Feinsand (@Feinsand) February 18, 2018

I think they finally realized that they have no chance of catching NYY and Boston in this division, and unlikely to secure a WC spot. Plus, with a possible new stadium on the horizon, I can see them dismantling the team to build for the future.

tk13 · 02-17-2018, 09:22 PM

At this point, we should see Archer traded to Milwaukee for Ryan Braun's elbow pad within the hour.

Al Bundy · 02-17-2018, 10:10 PM

The #Padres got their man. Eric Hosmer is their new first baseman. https://t.co/ox6tAoeDVe
— Kevin Acee (@sdutKevinAcee) February 18, 2018

Chiefspants · 02-17-2018, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Bundy

The #Padres got their man. Eric Hosmer is their new first baseman. https://t.co/ox6tAoeDVe
— Kevin Acee (@sdutKevinAcee) February 18, 2018

There it is.

tk13 · 02-17-2018, 10:14 PM

Well that's a bummer, but I'm not surprised. Seemed like there was a lot of smoke that he was leaning toward San Diego. Curious to see what the terms are. 100 years from now, his dash home from 3rd base will probably still be one of the top 5 plays in Royals history.

tk13 · 02-17-2018, 10:20 PM

Padres went 8. I'm guessing that's a player option?

Eric Hosmer has agreed to an 8-year contract with the #Padres that includes an opt-out after 5 years, source says. @MLB @MLBNetwork
— Jon Morosi (@jonmorosi) February 18, 2018

jaa1025 · 02-17-2018, 10:22 PM

I liked Hos, but I truly believe it's in the best interest of the team for him to sign with SD. He's a very good player but not elite.

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duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1780308	* Official 2018 Royals Offseason Repository * It's the end of the world as we know it... and we feel... fine? 2018 is a season of transition for the Royals, or at least it is at this point. Dayton Moore is back. Will he swing full into THE PROCESS 2.0? Or will he try to load up again and make some reload magic happen? Pending Free Agents: 1B \| Eric Hosmer \| San Diego Padres, 8 years, $144 million ($5 million signing bonus; $20 million/year in Yrs 1-5; $13 million/year in Yrs 6-8 wth player opt out) Spoiler! (DI's Guess: Texas Rangers, 6, $118 million) 3B \| Mike Moustaskas \| Kansas City Royas, 1, $6.5 million Spoiler! (DI's Guess: Los Angeles Angels, 5, $98 million) CF \| Lorenzo Cain \| Milwaukee Brewers, 5 years, $80 million Spoiler! (DI's Guess: San Francisco Giants, 4, $68 million) RP \| Mike Minor \| Texas Rangers, 3, $28 million Spoiler! (DI's Guess: Los Angeles Angels, 3, $35 million+ $12 million team option SP \| Jason Vargas \| New York Mets, 2, $16 million Spoiler! (DI's Guess: Baltimore Orioles, 2, $29 million) SS \| Alcides Escobar \| Kansas City Royals, 1, $2.5 million Spoiler! (DI's Guess: San Diego Padres, 1, $6.5 million) 2018 MLB Draft Picks #18 #33 - Compensation (Eric Hosmer) #34 - Compensation (Lorenzo Cain) #40 (Competitive Balance Round A) Comp picks explanation: Spoiler! In case I, picks would be #32, 33, and 34, if Alex Cobb of Rays signs for $50 million guaranteed. Kansas City will likely have 5 of the top 40-45 picks in the draft, and the bonus pool money should rival that of the teams drafting 1-3 in the 2017 draft. This should give KC tremendous flexibility in acquiring talent that otherwise might slip or not be "signable." 2018 Draft Names to Watch RHP Kumar Rocker, N Oconnee HS, Georgia. Spoiler! Possibly goes top 10 but is a big, physical SP with ace potential. Moore and co. will be all over him if he slips a bit and could offer top 10 money at No. 16 OF Jarred Kelenic, Waukasha West HS, WI Spoiler! Kelenic is the top prep bat, toolsy OF. Royals would be ecstatic to have shot at him. 1B Triston Casas, American Heritage HS (FL). Spoiler! Tremendous raw power, best in HS bats. Royals typically like HS arms or HS bats with "special" tools. He qualifies. RHP Carter Stewart, Eau de Gallie HS (Ga). Spoiler! Another big, physical specimen with huge upside. More likely to be available mid-first than Rocker. ANY Any, Any (Any). Any current top projected pick who slides for injury concerns. Includes current top prospect prospect SP Brady Singer, U of Florida. Last edited by duncan_idaho; 04-02-2018 at 06:46 AM..
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02-17-2018, 08:05 PM	#1456
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $2012500	The Rays acquired CJ Cron from the Angels, then turned around and cut Corey Dickerson, who was the starting DH for the American League in the All-Star game last year. Figure that one out. Corey Dickerson was just DFA’d by the #Rays to make room for CJ Cron via a trade from the #Angels for a PTBNL. Dickerson was a 2.7 WAR player in 2017 ($5.95m in 2018). Cron, a 0.8 WAR player in 2017 ($2.3m in 2018). That’s official. — Michael Baron (@michaelgbaron) February 18, 2018
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02-17-2018, 08:17 PM	#1458
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1780308	I'd be calling Corey Dickerson right now. What a weird, weird decision by the Rays. They're both DH types, and Dickerson is a lot better. Literally WTF. __________________ "You gotta love livin', cause dying is a pain in the ass." ---- Sinatra
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02-17-2018, 09:10 PM	#1460
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $2012500	Apparently Tampa has decided to wait until the 1st week of Spring Training to tank their team. Sources: Jake Odorizzi is going to Minnesota. Shortstop Jermaine Palacios is part of the package headed back to Tampa Bay. — Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) February 18, 2018
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02-17-2018, 09:13 PM	#1461
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $2012500	Check that, it's a one for one trade. Did someone hack the Rays front office and start making moves? To be clear, Palacios is the entire return to the Rays for Odorizzi. It’s a one-for-one deal with the Twins according to multiple sources — Mark Feinsand (@Feinsand) February 18, 2018
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02-17-2018, 09:20 PM	#1462
jd1020 In Search of a Life Join Date: Nov 2010 Casino cash: $7742645	Rays DFA Dickerson to open up a spot on the roster for Cron and then trade Odorizzi for an A ball prospect minutes later... what am I missing here?
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02-17-2018, 09:20 PM	#1463
Coach Champs! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $5978476	Yes to Corey Dickerson. Projected .268/.316/.484 with a OPS of .800 with 25 HR's. The downside is that he strikes out way too much for my liking of 137K's to 40 walks. But I'm speculating that a possible 1.5 to 2.5 WAR range type of a guy, the Royals should look into him for the DH position. __________________ Super Bowl IV, LIV, LVII & LVIII Champions 2020, 2021, 2023, & 2024 AFC Champions 1985 & 2015 Major League Baseball World Series Champions 1980, 1985, 2014, & 2015 Major League Baseball American League Champions 2015 American League Central Division Champs
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02-17-2018, 09:22 PM	#1465
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $2012500	At this point, we should see Archer traded to Milwaukee for Ryan Braun's elbow pad within the hour.
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02-17-2018, 10:10 PM	#1466
Al Bundy Damnit Peg Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Overland Park Casino cash: $5391831	The #Padres got their man. Eric Hosmer is their new first baseman. https://t.co/ox6tAoeDVe — Kevin Acee (@sdutKevinAcee) February 18, 2018
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02-17-2018, 10:14 PM	#1468
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $2012500	Well that's a bummer, but I'm not surprised. Seemed like there was a lot of smoke that he was leaning toward San Diego. Curious to see what the terms are. 100 years from now, his dash home from 3rd base will probably still be one of the top 5 plays in Royals history.
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02-17-2018, 10:20 PM	#1469
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $2012500	Padres went 8. I'm guessing that's a player option? Eric Hosmer has agreed to an 8-year contract with the #Padres that includes an opt-out after 5 years, source says. @MLB @MLBNetwork — Jon Morosi (@jonmorosi) February 18, 2018
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02-17-2018, 10:22 PM	#1470
jaa1025 Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Casino cash: $10000898	I liked Hos, but I truly believe it's in the best interest of the team for him to sign with SD. He's a very good player but not elite.
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