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Old 01-07-2019, 05:11 PM  
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Your Top 5 most scarring sports outcomes...

So reading the Colts/Chiefs topic about the game in '96 that is a horror fest and how it scarred everyone gave me the idea for this topic...screw it, I'm curious about everyone else's...

Here's mine...

1. Colts/Chiefs '96 playoffs - What more needs to be said? Thought at the very least we were going to the Super Bowl and nope...I was devastated.

2. Blues/Red Wings - Game 7 '96 Western Conference Semfinals - Another "this is our year" moment...and Steve ****ing Yzerman in Double OT rips my heart out with the most seeing eye bullshit slapper ever. **** off.

3. Mizzou/Oklahoma '02 Elite Eight - Clarence Gilbert goes ice damn cold and Arthur Johnson couldn't hit a FT to save his life...yeah that about sums up this shit show. Nothing like losing to OU for the 1,769th time in a row with a chance to go to the Final Four on the line.

4. Phil Mickelson at the 2006 U.S. Open - This entire topic could be 1-5 Phil but this one takes the cake for me. I couldn't believe he was actually going to do it and win an Open after coming so close and then.........banana peel off the 18th tee. Compound that with a calamity trying to get to the green and a totally meltdown was in progress. I sat in silence as his chip for bogey and a playoff raced by the cup.

5. Game 7 2014 World Series - Thankfully 2015 dampened and lessened the blow of this loss even though it still stings pretty bad. Madison Bumgarner being possessed by Sandy Koufax, Bob Gibson, and Cy Young at once and watching it knowing the inevitable absolutely sucked. Then you have the ray of light Gordo triple in the 9th and the uncertainty of never knowing what would've happened had he been sent...

What an uplifting topic, yes I know.


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Old 01-07-2019, 10:29 PM   #91
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Trading for Cassel was so much worse than trading for Smith.
Cassel doesn’t own two historical playoff loses like Alex does. #2/#3
And we wasted 4 solid years of potential championship defenses on Alex.


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Think the standard should be if the loss didn’t happen and instead your team won, would it have led to a Championship (or at the very least a trip to the Championship Round)

So with that in mind and I will just limit this to KC professional sports teams and NOT Sporting KC who I simply don’t give a **** about...

1. 2014 World Series Game 7 - this really wasn’t the most heartbreaking per se. I mean the Royals won so much that year even without winning it all. They mattered again. They were relevant again. That 29 year abyss one can easily argue was worse than this drought with the Chiefs. For me, it was tough because I flew out to KC for Games 6 & 7 of World Series with my 8 year old son, all to see them lose. Left the K feeling really proud for the Royals and the season/run they had but to not achieve the ultimate father/son sports moment (watching your team win it all live in person) hurt so ****ing much. Thankfully we DID get that chance next year as drove 30 minutes from our home to Citi Field for Game 5 and stayed there til 2am celebrating with the Royals and some 5000 Royals fans who also were there. STILL, seeing them all winning it all in New York WAS nice but it would not have held a candle to seeing them win it off in KC the year before. So yes, it’s tops for me but for selfish reasons.

2. 1977 ALCS Game 5 - although the Yankees were themselves. Great team, that WAS the best ever Royals team. 102-60. 16 game winning streak. Then an 8 game winning streak. Part of a 35-4 run. Games 4 AND 5 in KC. Up 3-1 through 7 innings in Game 5 and still up 3-2 going to the 9th and summoning your ace pitcher Dennis Leonard to finish them off and you give up 3 to lose the pennant. Did we ever need Wade Davis in a time machine... Royals would have annihilated the Dodgers in World Series.

3. 1997 AFC Divisional Playoffs - always felt winner of that game was going to crush Steelers the next week and go to Super Bowl and stood a great chance to win Super Bowl. After seeing the Chiefs detonate the 49ers 44-9 a month before, it just felt this team had it all and no real weakness. I mean put that D on the 2018 Chiefs and we are 16-0 without being seriously challenged even with that schedule. Yes Gannon should have started that game. Yes Broncos greased their jerseys. Yes Gonzalez had a TD taken away. I still think had they won that game they WIN the Super Bowl.

4. 1993 AFC Championship Game - with Montana leading Chiefs to improbable comeback wins to Steelers and then Oilers, just felt even with going to Buffalo and facing the 3 time defending Champs, there was a Super Bowl berth on the line and we had the QB to pull off the impsoble. Then the counter trey happened. Then Kimble Anders at the goal line just before halftime doing his best Demetrius Harris impersonation happened. Then DT being benched happened which cost him years from finally making the Hall of Fame. Then Montana being concussed happened. We’ve never been back to an AFC Championship Game since despite having 5 chances (4 at home) since.

5. 1980 World Series Game 5 - much like the 1977 ALCS. Royals led 3-2 top 9 and had the Quiz in for the save in KC. Close it out and you have 2 chances to win it all in Philly. But he gave up 2 so it’s now 4-3 Phillies. Royals load the bases and Jose Cardinal pinch hits with 2 outs and inexplicably takes a called strike 3 and Royals lost the World Series the next game but it was pretty much all over rughtbthere and then. Was at that mother ****ing game too.

I left some out so I’ll call it next level Top 5 or 6-10

6. 1976 ALCS Game 5. Yeah Chambliss walk off HR but it’s all top of 9 when a very disputed force out at second for the third out denied the inning being continued. Had it been continued the Royals would have had the bases loaded and Brett was going to be up. Somehow I feel the Chambliss HR would have sliced the Royals lead to 8-7 (or 9-7 - or maybe Brett hits the most clutch granny of all time and its now 10-7). What I’m saying is Royals would have made the World Series. They would have been destroyed by the Big Red Machine but going to World Series on their first playoff appearance would have been incredible - precursor to what did happen in 2014 if you will.

7. 1995 AFC Divisional - this was the most painful loss for me and hopefully I’ll never experience anything like this again. My appetite shut down for 5 days. I was beyond depressed. Years of past Chiefs disappointments all because they kept losing on the road but now you’re 8-0 at home and the 1 seed and you go 13-3! And here comes a 9-7 Colts team that was good at absolutely nothing. It still boggles my mind that they lost that game. If ever there was a game for Marty Ball it was that game in the 0 degree freezer with our elephants against their undersized DL and they put it in Bono’s hands. WHY? Still, even if they won given all the heartache in Marty’s career before and since there was no guarantee whatsoever they would have beat Steelers next week and after getting beat soundly in Dallas in Thanksgiving, there was very little reason to think they would have been able to beat that Cowboys Dynasty. Still though, it would have been a Super Bowl.

8. 1990 AFC Wild Card - this was next up. I wasn’t born for Christmas Day OT loss in 1971 so hating Shula and the Dolphins was something told to me from my Dad but I learned how to hate them here. Completely dominated Marino for 3 quarters and up 16-3 and now down 17-16 and yes the hold by Szott really hurt but Lowery is on for a 52 yard FG to win it and he made SO MANY long FGs in his career and it could be said he was the best long FG kicker in the game. It was in Miami and I don’t remember it being windy or rainy. Hell, Stoyanovich made a 58 yard FG to close first half. So Lowery hit it and it was right down the middle and I celebrated and celebrated until the refs said it was no good. Replays show it being at least 3 yards short. I still to this day cannot believe Lowery did not have the power to make that kick. And that Chiefs team was really good. DT 20 sack season. DeBerg was fantastic. Barry Word and Christian Okoye could run so effectively. That team likely loses to Buffalo next week though. Also if DT sacks Kreig for Sack 8 they won the AFC West and Raiders go to Miami and Chiefs host Bengals in Divisionals so maybe they beat Esiason. I say that because instead, the Raiders host Bengals and that’s the game Bo Jackson hurt his hip and in the process ends his Royals career.

9. 2016 AFC Divisonal - how do you lose a game when your D (and team) does not give up a single TD the whole game and your offense scores 2 TDS and you STILL lose? Only the Chiefs. Here however, the Steelers did control the game tempo and although Chiefs led in first half they never led in second half. However this was best chance for any Chiefs team post Marty to reach AFC Chamlionship Game and failed. I don’t think they would have had any chance to beat the Patriots the following week.

10. 2003 AFC Divisional - the No Punt game. Only team Vermeil tool to the playoffs and their offense was so freaking good. And their special teams was so freaking good and yes Dante Hall took one to the house in this game too. And their defense was so freaking bad. And we knew it going on and Peyton just carved them up. The whole. Freaking. Game. Hey fun fact. This was the ONLY home playoff game in Chiefs history that they NEVER led at any point. The shame is Priest Holmes, Tony Gonzalez, Trent Green never had a chance to play for a Super Bowl appearance. Even though Bellichick and Brady would have routed them in AFC Championship Game.

Now I didn’t put 2013 AFC Wild Card Game here. In pain, it is at the top no doubt and when you’re up 38-10 even on the road you win. But keep in mind they were the worst team in NFL the year before and during the course of this game they were beyond banged up. So many key injuries. Winning that game would have been without question their last win of the year as they were toast next round.

And I didn’t put 2017 AFC Wild Card Game either. It is also painful because up 21-3 in your home, you win ESPECIALLY against a mediocre offense that somehow managed to score 19 points in a half with everything at stake. Truth be told, I was so ready for the season to end and turn the keys over to Mahomes. Seriously, as Alex struggled in second half, Mahomes should have been the call for the final drive. I had absolutely zero doubt then the Chiefs win if he played but not upset. Losing that game was a blessing in disguise as it ushered in the Mahomes Era and despite Sutton and despite Reid, you give Mahomes a 21-3 lead or a 38-10 lead, home or road, strong team or weak team, I have unwavering confidence Mahomes will win each and every one of those games.
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Cassel doesn’t own two historical playoff loses like Alex does. #2/#3
And we wasted 4 solid years of potential championship defenses on Alex.


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The only QB in franchise history with two home playoff losses.
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I'm going to keep this to one team/person per sport, because in all honesty, there's nothing worse than being a Mizzou fan.

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Chiefs v. Broncos, 1997; Chiefs v. Colts 2003; Missouri Football v. South Carolina 2013; Missouri Football v. Kansas 2008; Missouri Football v. Auburn 2013; Missouri Football v. Oklahoma 2007; Missouri Football v. Oklahoma State 2008; Missouri Basketball v. Kansas 2012; Missouri Basketball v. Norfolk State 2012; Missouri Basketball v. UConn 2009; Missouri Basketball v. Arizona 1994; Missouri Basketball v. Oklahoma 2002; Phil Mickelson v. Henrik Stenson, 2016; Phil Mickelson v. Justin Rose 2013; Phil Mickelson v. Retief Goosen 2004; Phil Mickelson v. David Toms 2002; Phil Mickelson v. Payne Stewart 1999; St. Louis Cardinals v. Boston Red Sox, 2004, 2013; St. Louis Cardinals v. Atlanta Braves 1996; St. Louis Cardinals v. San Francisco Giants 2012

*Missouri Football v. Nebraska 1997. Few games epitomize what being a Missouri fan is like quite as thoroughly as this one. If you were going to show one game to your child to understand what being a Mizzou fan is like, this is the game. Beaten down program? Check. Powerhouse coming in to play? Check. Plucky play from physically outmatched players? Check. Vicious throat rip to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory as time expired? Check Blatant rules violations wholly ignored by the officiating crew? Check.

Mizzou led by 7 when a run-only offense from Nebraska got the ball with 62 seconds left, needing to go 67 yards. On the final play of the game, that vituperous one who sucks the penis Shelvin Wiggins kicked a ball he dropped up in the air (a penalty), allowing it to hang in the air for enough time (unbeknownst to Wiggins, because God is a ****) for a rat bastard named Matt Davison to dive down and make the catch. The fans storm the field thinking the game is over. They're wrong. Missouri is deflated and folds in OT. The North Endzone must have been built upon an Indian pedophile's pet cemetary.

Did I call my grandparents when Mizzou last held the ball to celebrate, thinking they could get one first down to run out the clock? Yes. Did I destroy a five gallon bucket with an aluminum bat after the game? Also yes. Is this game why I've never trusted an MU football team late in the game since? Absolutely.

*UCLA v. Missouri 1994. If you could condense a coach into an essential oil, this game was Norm Stewart. A team filled with scrappy, marginally-talented farm boys and a few hard-as-nails transfers (Paul O'Liney, much love) battled the clear #1 team in the nation to the very end of the game. Eighth-seeded Missouri, led by an awesome performance from O'Liney (5-6 from three, 9/13 overall) pulled ahead by one point with just over four seconds left after Julian Winfield made the two most pressure-filled free throws I've ever seen a Tiger attempt. What happens next has been replayed in NCAA Tournament packages for a quarter century. Norm inexplicably doesn't have Jason Sutherland check Tyus Edney until half court, at which point he has so much speed and momentum that he whizzes right by him, drives to the lane, and lofts a floater over the outstretched arms of Buck Grimm. Good. Season over. UCLA rolls to an NCAA title, and Norm never wins another tournament game. Every basketball team from junior high on sets up a defense after a timeout. Norm decides not to get the hands out of UCLA's best playmaker and best ball handler when they need to go the length of the court. Other teams got closer to the Final Four ('09, '02, '94), but none ever had their hearts ripped out quite like this.

*Phil Mickelson 2006 US Open. Phil won the Bell South by a dozen strokes earlier in the year, then cruised to his second title at Augusta. After winning at Baltusrol the prior August, he came to Winged Foot with the opportunity to do something only Tiger Woods and Ben Hogan had ever done: win three straight professional majors. Jack Nicklaus never did it, nor did Sam Snead, Palmer, or Watson. This was supposed to be a different kind of Mickelson. After coming under the tutelage of Dave Pelz, he began trying to improve the quality of his misses to increase his ability to get up and down. Unfortunately, Phil's swing has a tendency to get too long, which causes significant issues with timing on the downswing, and can lead to big misses, like hitting it in a ****ing trash can on 17 (where he saved par), followed by the inexplicable decision to hit driver on 18. His caddie said Phil couldn't get the ball far enough down with a 4 wood to give him a clean approach to the green. That's horseshit. That hole played 450 yards that day and Phil averaged 301 off the tee. He could have easily hit his 4 wood 240-250 yards and given himself no more than a five iron into that green. Compounding the mistake was trying to hit a banana cut with a three iron around the tree. It smacked solid. He tried to flight his third shot high above the trees, but it over cut and splattered into a downhill, fried egg lie. With greens running 12-13 on the stimpmeter and away from him, he had no shot. Over the green. Chip shot to tie ran eight feet past. Open gone. Making it worse was Geoff Ogilvy winning his only major after a miracle chip in on the 17th hole (he probably makes triple more often than he pars that hole). It was a complete collapse, a mixture of horrible course management, a bad swing, and bad luck. It was Phil.

*St. Louis Cardinals v. Houston Astros 2005. This doesn't seem as devastating now as it was at the time. If you're in your mid-thirties, you aren't quite old enough to remember the great Cardinal teams of the 80s, but just old enough to remember the awful Joe Torre teams of the early 90s. The year before the Cardinals were indisputably the best team in baseball. They're the only team I can think of that had three eight win players on it. But a bunch of idiots from Boston got hot at the right time and swept them out of the first World Series I'd ever seen them play in. The next year the Cardinals were arguably the best team in the game again, and their rotation was bolstered by the health of Chris Carpenter and the addition of Mark Mulder. After Mulder pissed down his leg in Game 2 and the Astros took Games 3 and 4 in Houston (including the only time I've ever seen a player get ejected mid AB in the post-season, **** you Phil Cuzzi), the Cardinals were down two runs in the 9th inning (after a bullshit three run homer that just snuck over the Crawford Boxes) with two outs in an elimination game, Eckstein and Edmonds reached, and Pujols hit an 0-1 slider from Brad Lidge on an intercept trajectory for Voyager 1. Bill Simmons called this result a "Dead Man Walking Game" noting that no team can recover from a loss like that, and that the Cardinals losing the series would cause him to have to create a new level of losing. I was a first-year graduate student making $7800 a year. I was pumped. I bought will-call tickets on eBay, drove 500 miles, met my best friend, and we went to Game 6, expecting a triumph. Instead, we got the last game ever played at Busch II. Roy Oswalt was dominant and Mark Mulder was the disloyal, fool-ass bitchmade punk every Cardinal fan feared he would be in a big game. Dan Haren turned into one of the better starters in the latter half of the 2000s. Mulder worked on his short game. I drove back 500 miles whose only playoff fan experiences were blowing a 3-1 lead against the Braves in '96, the spectacular meltdown of a generational lefty in 2000, and the meltdowns of '01, '02, and '04. After '05, the Cardinals felt every bit as cursed as any of the other teams I rooted for.

*Chiefs v. Colts 1996. This was not the best Chiefs team of my life, but it is the one that broke me. For Christmas 1993 I got a magnetic dry-erase board with helmets and placards for all NFL teams. I would make predictions for each game each week, then track my W-L records over the course of the season. This Chiefs team should have been different. Tim Brown ran into a ref on a slant route in OT, allowing a pass to float to James Hasty for a game-winning pick six. They beat the dog piss out of Denver in Denver, lost in Miami because they are the Chiefs, but were what I thought was a legitimate contender. After all, I was a homer. This game disabused me of any such optimism. Bono was so incompetent, Marty so shellshocked, and Elliot so shitiful that I literally could not believe what I was watching. It didn't seem real. It didn't seem fair. It didn't seem...deserved. What I learned that day was what William Munny already knew: deserve's got nothing to do with it. I destroyed the board that day. Since then, my Chiefs fandom shifted from faith and optimism to rage and ultimately...apathy. Some fights change fighters. Ali and Frazier were never the same after Manila. Meldrick Taylor was never the same after the premature stoppage against Chavez, nor Mugabe after Hagler. This game ruined me as a Chiefs fan.
This is what I came for....i than you good sir.

Hell me and you could do an entire topic just on Phil....
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Old 01-07-2019, 10:36 PM   #95
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Broncos Chiefs..MNF...you know the rest....Joe freaking Montana.
This probably would've been 6 on my list....just improbable as hell and left me in a state of confusion, anger, and sadness.

I do think like the Royals' game 7 loss this season for Liverpool could go a long way to erasing that nightmare.
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Trading for Cassel was so much worse than trading for Smith.
This. Every Hater that puts Cassel and Smith in the same level is mindnumbingly dumb.
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This. Every Hater that puts Cassel and Smith in the same level is mindnumbingly dumb.
Lick balls plow boy. Alex wasted 5 years with zero results. Cassel = Alex.
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This. Every Hater that puts Cassel and Smith in the same level is mindnumbingly dumb.
The Cassel and Jackson picks (along with Pioli firing the entire scouting staff that had a great '08 draft and hiring an old Patriots scout as his only guy before the '09 draft) was a massive red flag. The dude had no clue what to do beyond aping what Belichick did to the point where he wouldn't even pursue players unless they had some kind of tree connection. It was astonishing in its myopia.
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Oh yeah DT failing to sack Krieg for sack #8 might be my #5.
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I wasn't going to put any golf ones but that Tom Watson one is a real good pick. Just because it would have been one of the most unbelievable things to ever happen in sports. I'm not sure there's anything you can compare to that.
I'm still not over it. He had a lead going into the LAST hole, then hit a fine drive. Literally at the last possible place it could have gone wrong - the 2nd shot just bounces and bounces and bounces over the green.

I guess it could have been worse - he could have yipped a 3-footer for the win.

Same thing with the World Series in 2014. If Salvy had popped up with 1 out and Gordon on 3rd it would have been so much more painful.
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The most recent would be the playoff loss to the Colts in 2014; up by 28 in the second half, and knowing...knowing they are going to lose.






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Old 01-07-2019, 10:47 PM   #102
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The Cassel and Jackson picks (along with Pioli firing the entire scouting staff that had a great '08 draft and hiring an old Patriots scout as his only guy before the '09 draft) was a massive red flag. The dude had no clue what to do beyond aping what Belichick did to the point where he wouldn't even pursue players unless they had some kind of tree connection. It was astonishing in its myopia.
The guy must have pulled an epic con job on Clark.
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The guy must have pulled an epic con job on Clark.
He was a bully and I'm sure that his bluster worked on an owner that was, at the time, relatively new to the position. Pioli had a fantastic resume, no doubt, and the NFL has been chortling Patriot balls for 17 years now. That's why hiring good employees is tough. Sometimes the guy with the best resume is a fraud.
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I'm still not over it. He had a lead going into the LAST hole, then hit a fine drive. Literally at the last possible place it could have gone wrong - the 2nd shot just bounces and bounces and bounces over the green.

I guess it could have been worse - he could have yipped a 3-footer for the win.

Same thing with the World Series in 2014. If Salvy had popped up with 1 out and Gordon on 3rd it would have been so much more painful.
Watson made the mistake of hitting his normal club and not accounting that nerves make you hit the ball farther.

I've played that hole. It's tough, and damned near impossible from over the back of the green.
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