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Old 07-16-2019, 05:54 PM  
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The various movies obviously deserve their own threads once things actually start moving on them, but it seems like we should have a place just for general discussion about what they're planning. So here ya go.
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Old 07-21-2019, 10:45 AM   #31
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Here's a good breakdown of what's to come in Phase 4.
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Old 07-21-2019, 11:06 AM   #32
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And not to take this down some type of SJW/Wokeness hole, but is it really necessary to have Jane Foster become Thor? I know she did it in the comics, but in the MCU it feels cheapened somehow after Cap could wield Mjolnir. Odin is out the ether somewhere screaming out "YOU CAN WEILD THE HAMMER AND YOU CAN WEILD THE HAMMER WHO ELSE WANTS TO WIELD THE HAMMER????"

Spare me Lady Thor and give me Beta Ray Bill.
So you want too see Beta Ray Bill, another character who is capable (and was in fact the first to wield Mjolnir after Thor got it) of wielding Mjolnir, instead of Jane's Thor?

Beta Ray Bill fits nicely in the Galactic turn they are taking at Marvel... I can't imagine it will be long before we see him.

On the plus side...

Spoiler!
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Old 07-21-2019, 11:09 AM   #33
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As for Blade... I was really hoping they would bring Snipes back and do a story line where he teaches his daughter to take up his trade. That would have fit in nicely with the girl power movement that is coming up.

I like Ali as an actor and he has the seriousness to pull it off. I don't know if he is even remotely athletic enough to pull off the role. At the risk of making myself feel old but... he feels too old to be playing a "new" Blade.
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Old 07-21-2019, 11:34 AM   #34
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The big question for the new Thor movie is how are they going to bring the hammer back? Cap returned it to the past. So unless a new one is forged, this could very well be a multiverse type situation when it is in an alternate universe.
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Old 07-21-2019, 01:32 PM   #35
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I'm no type nearly as excited for these next phases as I was the previous ones.

.. but that could all change if they knock X Men and Blade out of the park.
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Old 07-21-2019, 02:39 PM   #36
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So you want too see Beta Ray Bill, another character who is capable (and was in fact the first to wield Mjolnir after Thor got it) of wielding Mjolnir, instead of Jane's Thor?

Beta Ray Bill fits nicely in the Galactic turn they are taking at Marvel... I can't imagine it will be long before we see him.

On the plus side...

Spoiler!
Yes, for the reasons you said. I'm looking forward to the cosmic side of Marvel, but that said I'm positive I'll still watch Jane Thor. Had Cap NOT lifted Mjolnir, I'd probably be more interested in what they do with Lady Thor. Still am I guess, but like I said, it just feels "been there done that" a little bit for me.
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Yes, for the reasons you said. I'm looking forward to the cosmic side of Marvel, but that said I'm positive I'll still watch Jane Thor. Had Cap NOT lifted Mjolnir, I'd probably be more interested in what they do with Lady Thor. Still am I guess, but like I said, it just feels "been there done that" a little bit for me.
But if we’re picking I’ll take cap smashing thanos with the hammer.
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Old 07-21-2019, 02:52 PM   #38
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But if we’re picking I’ll take cap smashing thanos with the hammer.
Oh yeah, don't ever get rid of that.

Speaking of, I feel pretty positive that we will see Thanos again, particularly with the Doctor Strange Multiverse movie. Plus the Loki series was confirmed to be the Loki that escaped with the Tesseract after getting his ass beat by Hulk in the original Avengers, so they're already dabbling in alternate universe versions of the characters.
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Old 07-21-2019, 05:20 PM   #39
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No one read Mighty Thor run huh? Jane Foster being a badass is not new.

One of the best Thor runs by Jason Aaron imo but all of his Thor has been awesome

I'm very excited for the new movies.
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Jane Foster taking over and Valkyrie is LGBTQ. Feels like Captain Marvel all over again
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Jane Foster taking over and Valkyrie is LGBTQ. Feels like Captain Marvel all over again
Guess you can spend your theater dollars on the trash DC is putting out these days instead, eh?
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Jane Foster taking over and Valkyrie is LGBTQ. Feels like Captain Marvel all over again
It's only going to progress that way..I mean you k kw the Russo brothers are gay?
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I'm sorry but Jane Foster needed to die with Thor 2. Bringing back Natalie Portman and finding some crazy way to give her the powers of Thor is a stretch. This isn't Gal Gadot in Wonder Woman, it's Gwenyth Paltrow being skilled all of a sudden in an Iron Man suit to take down Thanos kind of a stretch.

Sad that they've announced that Mahershala Ali as Blade won't be apart of Phase 4. That casting announcement was the best by far.
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“As new king [of Asgard], she needs to find her queen," said the actress during the studio's Comic-Con panel.

Tessa Thompson's Valkyrie looks to be breaking ground for Marvel Studios as its first out LBGTQ hero.

In the aftermath of Avengers: Endgame, Valkyrie assumed the role of ruler of New Asgard, the town populated by refugee Asgardians. “As new king [of Asgard], she needs to find her queen. That will be the first order of business," said Thompson during Marvel Studio's Hall H panel at Comic-Con.

Thompson was talking about her character Valkyrie, who will be appearing in the fourth Thor movie, now titled Thor: Love and Thunder, which will also see the return of Chris Hemsworth as the Norse god and Natalie Portman, who will play female Thor.

This isn't the first time the actress has openly talked about her character's sexuality. Ahead of Thor: Ragnarok's release, Thompson told Rolling Stone that director Taika Waititi pitched her the character as being bisexual, as she is portrayed in the comic books. (Waititi will be returning to write and direct Love and Thunder.) However, the film itself did not address her sexuality. Thompson's comments suggest that will change in Love and Thunder.

Valkyrie would be the first LGBTQ superhero in a Marvel movie.

Marvel Studios head Kevin Feige has long promised the MCU would include an LGBTQ hero. Filmmakers The Russo Bros. included the studio's first openly gay character in Avengers: Endgame. Co-director Joe Russo played a gay man lamenting the loss of his partner in a Captain America-led therapy session in the most recent installment of the Avengers series.

"We've done four of these films and it was incredibly important to us to have a gay character represented somewhere in one of these four movies," Joe Russo told The Hollywood Reporter ahead of Endgame's release. "We felt so strongly about it that I wanted to play that character in the film."

Thor: Love and Thunder opens Nov. 5, 2021.
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