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Old 04-21-2021, 06:30 AM  
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Biden administration says it supports bill to make Washington, DC a state

Biden administration says it supports bill to make Washington, DC a state
The administration of U.S. President Joe Biden on Tuesday formally expressed its support for a House bid to make Washington, D.C., the 51st state, saying it would provide the District with “long overdue full representation in Congress.”

“Establishing the State of Washington, Douglass Commonwealth as the 51st state will make our Union stronger and more just,” the Office of Management and Budget said in a statement on Tuesday. “Washington, D.C. has a robust economy, a rich culture, and a diverse population of Americans from all walks of life who are entitled to full and equal participation in our democracy.”

The statement called for Congress “to provide for a swift and orderly transition to statehood for the people of Washington, D.C.”

The Democratic-led House is expected to vote this week on the “Washington, D.C. Admission Act” (H.R. 51). The bill was passed by the House last year, but was unsuccessful in the then-Republican controlled Senate.

Democrats would need the support of at least 10 Republican senators in order to advance the bill without getting rid of the 60-vote filibuster.

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Residents ‘deprived’ of representation

“For far too long, the more than 700,000 people of Washington, D.C. have been deprived of full representation in the U.S. Congress. This taxation without representation and denial of selfgovernance is an affront to the democratic values on which our Nation was founded,” the statement said.

Two states, Wyoming and Vermont, have fewer residents than Washington, D.C.

The average size of a congressional district is about 710,000, according to data from the Census Bureau.

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Wouldn’t qualify as a congressional district

D.C. wouldn't even qualify as a singular congressional district and here they are, they want the power and the authority of being an entire state in the United States — and they want that power,” Rep. Nancy Mace (R-SC) said.

“The Founding Fathers never intended for Washington D.C. to be a state,” Sen. Mike Rounds (R-SD) wrote on Twitter, adding that the move “is really about packing the Senate with Democrats in order to pass a left-wing agenda.
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Old 04-27-2021, 10:26 AM   #121
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Article 1, section 8, clause 17 of the U.S. Constitution gives Congress the power "To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States"

Cession is defined as "the formal giving up of rights, property, or territory of a state".

Without a Constitutional Amendment allowing Washington D.C. to be both a state and a ten mile square federal district that is the seat of the federal government of the United States, I don't see D.C. statehood complying with article 1, section 8, clause 17 of our Constitution.
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Old 04-27-2021, 10:31 AM   #122
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Article 1, section 8, clause 17 of the U.S. Constitution gives Congress the power "To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States"

Cession is defined as "the formal giving up of rights, property, or territory of a state".

Without a Constitutional Amendment allowing Washington D.C. to be both a state and a ten mile square federal district that is the seat of the federal government of the United States, I don't see D.C. statehood complying with article 1, section 8, clause 17 of our Constitution.
This whole thing should have been DOA.
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Old 04-27-2021, 10:53 AM   #123
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This whole thing should have been DOA.
Since when has the left, let-alone the radical communist left, ever followed the Constitution?

There are already lawsuits being threatened should the Senate pass it too.
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Old 04-27-2021, 10:56 AM   #124
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Since when has the left, let-alone the radical communist left, ever followed the Constitution?

There are already lawsuits being threatened should the Senate pass it too.
Im wondering when were going to be able to hold these assholes accountable for violating their oath of office?
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Old 04-27-2021, 10:57 AM   #125
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The House represents people. The Senate represents states. California has the most members in the House with 53.
Exactly. If anything repeal of the 17th Amendment should be done. One reason used to pass it was to eliminate or reduce corruption allegedly. Only corruption is worse. We have carpetbagging political candidates moving to a state they never lived in to run for senate there. And we have lots of money from outside a state to influence elections when they don't even live there. Like Hollywood interfering in Georgia. Then they use the tax credits they get to film there, against what are mostly conservatives in Georgia. This is the party that's always screaming about fairness. No they're all about power grabs to install their politburos.
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Old 04-27-2021, 01:49 PM   #126
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Statehood is the worst thing that could happen to Puerto Rico. As a state Puerto Rico would not only have the highest state income and sales taxes in the U.S., but residents would also have to start paying the Federal Income tax, a bigger disaster than hurricanes & earthquakes.~Peter Schiff, CEO and chief global strategist of Euro Pacific Capital Inc. and financial commentator.

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According to the IRS only certain residents have to pay federal income taxes to the US govt like fed govt employees there; members of the US military who reside there and other fed govt related businesses or corporations.
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Old 04-27-2021, 02:40 PM   #127
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Article 1, section 8, clause 17 of the U.S. Constitution gives Congress the power "To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States"

Cession is defined as "the formal giving up of rights, property, or territory of a state".

Without a Constitutional Amendment allowing Washington D.C. to be both a state and a ten mile square federal district that is the seat of the federal government of the United States, I don't see D.C. statehood complying with article 1, section 8, clause 17 of our Constitution.
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This whole thing should have been DOA.

That's because you haven't been paying attention.
Once again...The exact boundaries of DC are not set by the Constitution.
The current boundaries of DC would changed through normal legislation to include only some important govt buildings (WH, Congress, etc.) and this land would remain "DC." It would not be a state.

The other parts, the parts with people, would become a state.
So, "DC" really wouldn't become a state.
Area that was formerly in DC would be the new state.
Glad to help.

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Old 04-27-2021, 02:41 PM   #128
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Im wondering when were going to be able to hold these assholes accountable for violating their oath of office?
They didn't. You're just not very smart.
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Old 04-28-2021, 10:29 AM   #129
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That's because you haven't been paying attention.
Once again...The exact boundaries of DC are not set by the Constitution.
The current boundaries of DC would changed through normal legislation to include only some important govt buildings (WH, Congress, etc.) and this land would remain "DC." It would not be a state.

The other parts, the parts with people, would become a state.
So, "DC" really wouldn't become a state.
Area that was formerly in DC would be the new state.
Glad to help.
It wasn't a state when the people moved there. Typical libs , move in take over and change.

The only reason it is happening is to further tip the scales to the left.

They don't give a flying **** about the people, just winning the next election
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Old 04-28-2021, 10:44 AM   #130
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... really, name a state that is 95% Republican... I will wait.
I had in mind the Dakotas. It was Dakota Territory, and then was split mainly to create an extra state with extra Senators and reps for the GOP.

They aren't 95%, but about as Red as they get.
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Old 04-28-2021, 01:23 PM   #131
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I had in mind the Dakotas. It was Dakota Territory, and then was split mainly to create an extra state with extra Senators and reps for the GOP.

They aren't 95%, but about as Red as they get.
North Dakota and South Dakota Were Admitted to the Union. After controversy over the location of a capital, the Dakota Territory was split in two and divided into North and South in 1889. Later that year, on November 2, North Dakota and South Dakota were admitted to the Union as the 39th and 40th states.
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Old 04-28-2021, 01:57 PM   #132
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North Dakota and South Dakota Were Admitted to the Union. After controversy over the location of a capital, the Dakota Territory was split in two and divided into North and South in 1889. Later that year, on November 2, North Dakota and South Dakota were admitted to the Union as the 39th and 40th states.
Yeah right. Almost every state has had controversy over the location of its capital.

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Finally, the program of division, with southern Dakota becoming a state and northern Dakota a territory, was dropped in favor of a bill to admit two states. Senator Benjamin Harrison of Indiana pushed it hard and the large population of Dakota (in 1890, North Dakota alone had 190,983 inhabitants and South Dakota 348,600) made further denial seem unjust and irresponsible. In the presidential campaign of 1888 the Republican platform called for admission of two states. Ordway and the Dakota Democrats finally dropped their single-state bill. Both Republicans and Democrats voted for the Omnibus Bill of February 22, 1889, authorizing the framing of constitutions in North Dakota, South Dakota, Montana, and Washington. When the bill finally passed the House of Representatives, some of the members threw books and papers into the air in celebration and there was a general handshaking of congratulation. A step toward equality of status had been taken.
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Im wondering when were going to be able to hold these assholes accountable for violating their oath of office?
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