Chiefs Should they have called this unnecessary roughness - Page 3

-King- · 12-08-2019, 11:25 PM

They would call this if it was on Brady #KCvsNE pic.twitter.com/Ml8caUNpxG
— Koro (@nonsmoknlifboat) December 8, 2019

This is an argument I'm having in another thread. Supposedly this hit should have been flagged because Mahomes was heading out of bounds even though he asnt officially out of bounds yet. IMO, there's no way this should be flagged. A player in bounds is a player in bounds and can get hit. As much as I'd love for Mahomes to be protected, objectively there's no way they should call a penalty here.

Also it's weird how people hate the refs but want to add even more subjectivity to how they rule. So now they have to guess if a player is clearly going out of bounds on not? Makes no sense to me but hey...I'm CPs chief contrarian so I may be way off...

jjjayb · 12-09-2019, 12:51 AM

He contacted Mahomes while he was still inbounds but he didn't shove him until he was out of bounds. Should have been a penalty.

Imon Yourside · 12-09-2019, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jjjayb

He contacted Mahomes while he was still inbounds but he didn't shove him until he was out of bounds. Should have been a penalty.

Correct

LongSufferingToady · 12-09-2019, 01:20 AM

1. Should have been called for unnecessary roughness.

2. The bench should have cleared and clobbered the guy.

-King- · 12-09-2019, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DaFace

It's not just Brady. That gets called probably 80% of the time on any QB.

Any examples? I asked this in the other thread and somehow the only example someone posted was the Chris Jones penalty on Brady last year. Don't ask me how it relates to this play because I'm still trying to figure it out.

I've literally never seen it called and people not say it was a bad call. Because it's literally a bad call. It's not a subjective penalty at all. A late hit OOB is a late hit OOB. There's no subjectivity that would allow the ref to throw a flag because the player was heading out of bounds.

-King- · 12-09-2019, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie

It’s not a penalty what’s wrong with you people? Bet your ****ing ass they better not call that shit when we play Lamar Jackson.

This is insane right?

Coogs · 12-09-2019, 06:27 AM

That is the true definition of unnecessary roughness. I realize the game is tackle football. But that is unnecessary roughness.

Mile High Mania · 12-09-2019, 06:34 AM

I think he touched him while he was still inbounds, but yeah - there was no threat of him doing anything but running out. That should have been a penalty.

Deberg_1990 · 12-09-2019, 06:38 AM

He started the tackle while Mahomes was still in bounds. Totally legit.

He probably should have let up as Mahomes stepped out. It’s a tough call. Probably looks worse than it actually was.

tredadda · 12-09-2019, 06:47 AM

If you follow the letter of the law then no it shouldn’t be a penalty. If you follow the accepted rule of thumb in regards to a situation such as this then it absolutely should have been a penalty. Penalty or not if he were a different QB then it without a doubt would have been called. They need to enforce it properly or at least use the same standards across the board and not pick and choose when it is and is not a penalty.

tmax63 · 12-09-2019, 07:03 AM

During a hit after a pass is thrown in bounds, if the player doesn't let up it's a penalty. When a player has given up by sliding forcible contact is a penalty. When he is out of bounds or partially out then it should be a penalty as well and is normally called as such. I saw 2 hits on PMII yesterday that should of been flagged but they (the refs) let the Chiefs sack TB 3 times and hit him a couple without flags so I'm not really mad about it. If the flags were falling when TB was getting hit but not PMII then I would of been more pissed.

dj56dt58 · 12-09-2019, 07:11 AM

It should have been called, he pushed him a lot harder than needed to get him out of bounds. He pushed him hard enough to where he could have been seriously hurt with all the shit on the sidelines and honestly I was surprised he didnt get hurt there. That's where the unnecessary part comes in

oldman · 12-09-2019, 07:20 AM

By the book, no, he was a runner. But we see that called every week when it's an established star QB. One way or another, NFL.

Garcia Bronco · 12-09-2019, 07:52 AM

He was still in bounds while he got touched. The rest is b*******.

stevieray · 12-09-2019, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

He was still in bounds while he got touched. The rest is b*******.

what's bullshit?

there was no call

Rasputin · 12-09-2019, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

He was still in bounds while he got touched. The rest is b*******.

Beandip? baconstrip? burgerbun? barnicals? blueballs? badcackles? birdpoop? beanyweinies? budweiser? buttwhipes? buttholesurfer?

I don't know what kind of bullshit word you're trying to say ?

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-King- ▓▓▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▓▓ Join Date: Jan 2009 Casino cash: $2525743	Should they have called this unnecessary roughness They would call this if it was on Brady #KCvsNE pic.twitter.com/Ml8caUNpxG — Koro (@nonsmoknlifboat) December 8, 2019 This is an argument I'm having in another thread. Supposedly this hit should have been flagged because Mahomes was heading out of bounds even though he asnt officially out of bounds yet. IMO, there's no way this should be flagged. A player in bounds is a player in bounds and can get hit. As much as I'd love for Mahomes to be protected, objectively there's no way they should call a penalty here. Also it's weird how people hate the refs but want to add even more subjectivity to how they rule. So now they have to guess if a player is clearly going out of bounds on not? Makes no sense to me but hey...I'm CPs chief contrarian so I may be way off...
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12-09-2019, 12:51 AM	#31
jjjayb MVP Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Back in K.C. baby!!!! Casino cash: $6163433	He contacted Mahomes while he was still inbounds but he didn't shove him until he was out of bounds. Should have been a penalty.
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12-09-2019, 01:20 AM	#33
LongSufferingToady Old, not Dead Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Where the Buffalo Roam... Casino cash: $9320400	1. Should have been called for unnecessary roughness. 2. The bench should have cleared and clobbered the guy.
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12-09-2019, 06:27 AM	#36
Coogs In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Northern Kansas Casino cash: $1644349	That is the true definition of unnecessary roughness. I realize the game is tackle football. But that is unnecessary roughness.
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12-09-2019, 06:34 AM	#37
Mile High Mania #triggering Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Tejas Casino cash: $3717229	I think he touched him while he was still inbounds, but yeah - there was no threat of him doing anything but running out. That should have been a penalty. __________________
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12-09-2019, 06:38 AM	#38
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $3914454	He started the tackle while Mahomes was still in bounds. Totally legit. He probably should have let up as Mahomes stepped out. It’s a tough call. Probably looks worse than it actually was. __________________ Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning: Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down. One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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12-09-2019, 06:47 AM	#39
tredadda Three-Pat Join Date: May 2011 Location: Colorado Springs Casino cash: $1905053	If you follow the letter of the law then no it shouldn’t be a penalty. If you follow the accepted rule of thumb in regards to a situation such as this then it absolutely should have been a penalty. Penalty or not if he were a different QB then it without a doubt would have been called. They need to enforce it properly or at least use the same standards across the board and not pick and choose when it is and is not a penalty.
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12-09-2019, 07:03 AM	#40
tmax63 Veteran Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Colorado Casino cash: $3270400	During a hit after a pass is thrown in bounds, if the player doesn't let up it's a penalty. When a player has given up by sliding forcible contact is a penalty. When he is out of bounds or partially out then it should be a penalty as well and is normally called as such. I saw 2 hits on PMII yesterday that should of been flagged but they (the refs) let the Chiefs sack TB 3 times and hit him a couple without flags so I'm not really mad about it. If the flags were falling when TB was getting hit but not PMII then I would of been more pissed. __________________ An armed member of society is a citizen, an unarmed member is a subject.
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12-09-2019, 07:11 AM	#41
dj56dt58 Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Missouri Casino cash: $9960055	It should have been called, he pushed him a lot harder than needed to get him out of bounds. He pushed him hard enough to where he could have been seriously hurt with all the shit on the sidelines and honestly I was surprised he didnt get hurt there. That's where the unnecessary part comes in
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12-09-2019, 07:20 AM	#42
oldman Curmudgeon Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North by Northwest Casino cash: $5836784	By the book, no, he was a runner. But we see that called every week when it's an established star QB. One way or another, NFL.
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12-09-2019, 07:52 AM	#43
Garcia Bronco No Keys, No Problem Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Denver Casino cash: $5323136	He was still in bounds while he got touched. The rest is b*******.
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