Chiefs Justin Houston’s last year in KC? - Page 7

kcbubb · 09-21-2018, 08:41 AM

I’m not an expert on these contracts, but could it be Houston’s last year here? His production has been awful and with two games this year with big leads and lots of down the field pass attempts by opposing QBs, Houston has no sacks. I think he has less sacks in the last 50 or so games than he did in the year before his contract, the big year with 22 sacks. His cap hit will decline dramatically next year. He might be gone. As a general rule, I think the chiefs should limit these large 2nd contracts. The motivation just isn’t there. The raiders were right to trade Khalil Mack. Here’s the info on Houston’s contract. Let’s hope Houston turns it around. We need him for a playoff run but if he doesn’t increase production, I think he’s gone.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-c...-houston-7789/

kccrow · 09-21-2018, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Hey Clowney is a FA after this year want him?

Think Ezekial Ansah can stand up because Detroit probably won't keep him either.

Lots of decent edge rushers slated to be FA... Clay Matthews, Brian Orakpo, Jadeveon Clowney, Derrick Morgan, Demarcus Lawrence, Brandon Graham, Ezekiel Ansah...

Mecca · 09-21-2018, 10:09 AM

For the record the CB FA market for next year is horrible. Safety is solid though lots of good players there.

Mecca · 09-21-2018, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

Lots of decent edge rushers slated to be FA... Clay Matthews, Brian Orakpo, Jadeveon Clowney, Derrick Morgan, Demarcus Lawrence, Brandon Graham, Ezekiel Ansah...

I don't like Lawrence or Graham as stand up guys honestly..Morgan ehh

Matthews is still productive but GB will probably keep him.

Gravedigger · 09-21-2018, 10:12 AM

This year is a prove it or cut year for Houston and next year is a prove it or cut year for Berry. We need to start preparing to extend Tyreek and Mahomes.

RunKC · 09-21-2018, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

Lots of decent edge rushers slated to be FA... Clay Matthews, Brian Orakpo, Jadeveon Clowney, Derrick Morgan, Demarcus Lawrence, Brandon Graham, Ezekiel Ansah...

Dante Fowler’s option was turned down.

That’s my pick

kccrow · 09-21-2018, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

For the record the CB FA market for next year is horrible. Safety is solid though lots of good players there.

Would love to steal Landon Collins from the G-Men and move Berry to FS, but I think they'll franchise him.

kccrow · 09-21-2018, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I don't like Lawrence or Graham as stand up guys honestly..Morgan ehh

Matthews is still productive but GB will probably keep him.

More or less noting it could be a saturated market, which may be good for signing the next tier guys for decent money.

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Dante Fowler’s option was turned down.

That’s my pick

Mine too.

O.city · 09-21-2018, 10:17 AM

Fowler is a headcase

**RealSNR** · 09-21-2018, 10:25 AM

I trust Houston with mega millions way more than I do Dee Ford, and we have Houston for another two seasons beyond this one.

What we should really be concerned with is, "Dee Ford's last year in KC?" not Justin Houston.

And no, I'm not making excuses for Houston. I'm just saying that he is a far more reliable player. Other than his weird knee thing that happened, he's been a healthy player. Dee Ford is always knicked with some bullshit, "Oh, I was playing on a bad hamstring all year..." excuse.

And on the field... even post-injury, I'd STILL rather have Houston than Ford.

Yes, we should absolutely restructure his deal, and I'm not necessarily against cutting him, but knowing Veach, I have yet to see him sign players to decent deals. If we tried to extend Ford, it'd be a REALLY shitty deal for us. I just know it.

Let Ford walk. Pray that one of Kpass/Speaks isn't a moldy bag of dicks. Restructure Houston's deal. And probably draft another guy.

That's how I'd handle it.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 09-21-2018, 10:25 AM

SF has given up 9 sacks this year so it might be a good week to see guys like Houston have a big game...

pugsnotdrugs19 · 09-21-2018, 10:29 AM

KC is going to have some real cap space to work with next offseason AND they will have a good stockpile of picks to work with.

If done right, it could be the kind of offseason that primes them for a Super Bowl run.

Halfcan · 09-21-2018, 10:37 AM

Houston had the biggest defensive play in the game and it was stolen by the Refs.

He had another sure sack that was negated by a blatant hold and Ben throwing past the line of scrimmage.

2 sacks taken away. But the Narrative is he didn't do anything because there are no sacks on record. Do people even watch the games?

Oh yeah, he was held like crazy every play to protect Ben.

Jimmy Grapes will feel the full force of Houston this week and these kinds of threads will disappear.

Halfcan · 09-21-2018, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

KC is going to have some real cap space to work with next offseason AND they will have a good stockpile of picks to work with.

If done right, it could be the kind of offseason that primes them for a Super Bowl run.

This is how you build a Dynasty.

philfree · 09-21-2018, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan

Houston had the biggest defensive play in the game and it was stolen by the Refs.

He had another sure sack that was negated by a blatant hold and Ben throwing past the line of scrimmage.

2 sacks taken away. But the Narrative is he didn't do anything because there are no sacks on record. Do people even watch the games?

Oh yeah, he was held like crazy every play to protect Ben.

Jimmy Grapes will feel the full force of Houston this week and these kinds of threads will disappear.

I believe this is so.

WhiteWhale · 09-21-2018, 11:09 AM

Well, if the refs hadn't decided (for whatever reason) that offensive holding was going to be completely legal for the game Houston probably has 2 or 3.

09-21-2018, 08:41 AM
kcbubb Veteran Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $6126719	Justin Houston’s last year in KC? I’m not an expert on these contracts, but could it be Houston’s last year here? His production has been awful and with two games this year with big leads and lots of down the field pass attempts by opposing QBs, Houston has no sacks. I think he has less sacks in the last 50 or so games than he did in the year before his contract, the big year with 22 sacks. His cap hit will decline dramatically next year. He might be gone. As a general rule, I think the chiefs should limit these large 2nd contracts. The motivation just isn’t there. The raiders were right to trade Khalil Mack. Here’s the info on Houston’s contract. Let’s hope Houston turns it around. We need him for a playoff run but if he doesn’t increase production, I think he’s gone. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-c...-houston-7789/
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pugsnotdrugs19 SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS Join Date: Aug 2013 Casino cash: $9169447	KC is going to have some real cap space to work with next offseason AND they will have a good stockpile of picks to work with. If done right, it could be the kind of offseason that primes them for a Super Bowl run.
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Halfcan In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $7327995	Houston had the biggest defensive play in the game and it was stolen by the Refs. He had another sure sack that was negated by a blatant hold and Ben throwing past the line of scrimmage. 2 sacks taken away. But the Narrative is he didn't do anything because there are no sacks on record. Do people even watch the games? Oh yeah, he was held like crazy every play to protect Ben. Jimmy Grapes will feel the full force of Houston this week and these kinds of threads will disappear.
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