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Old 08-23-2019, 04:38 PM  
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Old 08-24-2019, 11:55 AM   #136
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Well yeah everything is pretty clear if you're willing to pick and choose what you do and don't include
Yeah. Pointing out a team no longer had the services of a Hall of Fame defensive coaching talent is cherry picking.

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Old 08-24-2019, 12:00 PM   #137
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Who started this jackass rumor about trading Tyreek?
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Old 08-24-2019, 12:02 PM   #138
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Who started this jackass rumor about trading Tyreek?
Benjamin Allbright.

Geoff Schwartz piling on with his dumb opinion.
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Old 08-24-2019, 12:07 PM   #139
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Benjamin Allbright..
Ah, I see, a friggin Donkey reporter. Makes sense. I thought he was too busy getting trolled the F' out by barstoolies and making legal threats
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Old 08-24-2019, 12:08 PM   #140
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The Hill trade talk is so dumb.

We wouldn’t trade him to a contender and have it bite us in the ass later.

No team that is building would mortgage their future by giving the Chiefs multiple firsts to get him.
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Old 08-24-2019, 12:09 PM   #141
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Watkins instead of Hill if they are going to dangle anyone. And who wants that contract and injury history ?
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Old 08-24-2019, 12:10 PM   #142
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Benjamin Allbright.

Geoff Schwartz piling on with his dumb opinion.
Ben is a guy with little to no real sources that somehow is still employed.

He straight up makes things up.

Lots of those guys out there. He should have been fired after the Evan Mathis stuff.
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Old 08-24-2019, 12:30 PM   #143
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How many great defenses didnít go on to win the Super Bowl as well?
Not many.

1969 Chiefs
1976 Steelers
1985 Bears
1986 Giants
2000 Ravens
2002 Bucanneers
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2013 Seahawks
2015 Broncos

Every one of these defenses won the Super Bowl
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Old 08-24-2019, 12:54 PM   #144
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Yeah. Pointing out a team no longer had the services of a Hall of Fame defensive coaching talent is cherry picking.

How is it not?
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Old 08-24-2019, 01:14 PM   #145
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Old 08-24-2019, 01:18 PM   #146
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Not many.

1969 Chiefs
1976 Steelers
1985 Bears
1986 Giants
2000 Ravens
2002 Bucanneers
2008 Steelers
2013 Seahawks
2015 Broncos

Every one of these defenses won the Super Bowl
I donít think it comes down to being great on offense or defense specifically. I think you need to either be elite on one side of the ball and competent on the other OR good on both sides of the ball.

Some of the examples above arenít really relevant anymore. Are the Brad Johnsons or Trent Dilfers of the world going to be the QBs on Super Bowl winning teams in todayís NFL? Not likely.

Before anyone brings up Foles, the Eagles wouldnít have had the 1 seed without Wentz having the season he did. Foles wouldnít have made it to the Super Bowl as a wildcard.
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Old 08-24-2019, 01:23 PM   #147
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How is it not?
10-7 playoff record with Jim Johnson, 2-7 without Jim Johnson.

But you're so right. There's nothing meaningful that can be inferred from this data.
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10-7 playoff record with Jim Johnson, 2-7 without Jim Johnson.

But you're so right. There's nothing meaningful that can be inferred from this data.
Yeah you can do that with a lot of people. If you take away their most successful part of their career, what do you expect? It's like saying Michael Jordan wasn't as good as he was because he has a 5-15 playoff record without Phil Jackson. See how easy that is?
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There are 2 untouchable players on this team Mahomes of course and Tyreek Hill. Hill gets better every year as he learns the position and refines his skills. I bet he pushes 2000 yards this year. He's going to have probably 5-6 more elite years of 1500+. With his honed skills he should still be fairly productive even when he loses a step. If he stays healthy he will be in the top 10 for all time rec yards.

Someone save this post, so we can see I'm right in 10 years.
I said over a year ago that if I were starting a franchise from scratch, from the Chiefs organization I'd take Mahomes and Hill over everything, down to Arrowhead, Reid and Kansas City.
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Andy Reid has been to a championship game 6 times. He only went to the Super Bowl once.

That one time was with Jim Johnson and a damn good defense.

That says an awful lot
It's not like he had a ton of offensive help.

For a while he had Pinkston, Thrash and Freddie Mitchell as his receivers. The one complete year he had a dynamic receiving weapon in TO they went to the SB

Had he had Patrick Mahomes in 2004, he would most likely have a ring right now.
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