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Old 01-08-2019, 03:51 PM  
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Paul Manafort shared 2016 polling data with Russian

Manafort giving Russians American Polling Data....pathetic and criminal.

Happens all the time, right? Trump barely knew him, right?


“Paul Manafort shared 2016 presidential campaign polling data with Konstantin Kilimnik, an associate the FBI has said has ties to Russian intelligence, according to a court filing.

The information is in a filing that appears to inadvertently include details not intended to be made public and indicates a pathway by which the Russians could have had access to Trump campaign data.”

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Old 01-08-2019, 11:28 PM   #46
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If this is such a big deal, why didn't Mueller charge him with it?
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Old 01-08-2019, 11:51 PM   #47
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Here is an explanation from FOX.

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Old 01-09-2019, 06:11 AM   #48
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Old 01-09-2019, 09:45 AM   #49
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"Sorry, but this is years ago, before Paul Manafort was part of the Trump campaign," tweeted Trump in October 2017. "But why aren't Crooked Hillary & the Dems the focus????"

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Old 01-09-2019, 09:47 AM   #50
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"Sorry, but this is years ago, before Paul Manafort was part of the Trump campaign," tweeted Trump in October 2017. "But why aren't Crooked Hillary & the Dems the focus????"

Polling data? Polling Data............... POLLING DATA...........
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Old 01-09-2019, 09:50 AM   #51
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Polling data? Polling Data............... POLLING DATA...........
Sure. And this:

These failed redactions show Manafort had a meeting with Kilimnik in Madrid, gave him campaign polling data, and discussed a Ukrainian peace plan with him
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Old 01-09-2019, 09:52 AM   #52
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A secret agreement between two or more parties for a fraudulent, illegal, or deceitful purpose.
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Old 01-09-2019, 09:59 AM   #53
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It is neat to see the progression from "NO COLLUSION! RUSSIAN HOAX!" to "So what!?"
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Old 01-09-2019, 10:04 AM   #54
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It is neat to see the progression from "NO COLLUSION! RUSSIAN HOAX!" to "So what!?"
It's got to where the trumptards only consider it collusion and/or coordination if there were body fluids exchanged at some point.
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Old 01-09-2019, 10:05 AM   #55
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Trumps campaign manager shares polling data with a hostile govt who is actively targetting his opponent with misinformation campaigns. But what does Russia get out of it? Removing sanctions, allowing Russia to get away with annexing another country, etc. by changing the Republican platform. I'm sure there's some laws broken in there somewhere, obviously they are receiving something of value, but the more important question is if this is something the president of the United States should be involved in? I don't really care about the laws on the books, I seriously doubt our founding fathers thought someone with the extreme lack of patriotism to have his political opponents attacked by a foreign adversary would be elected president. Go ahead and defend him Trumpers, talk about how none of it matters, etc. and then remember your words the next time a dem president is sitting there with controversy on their hands. I doubt it'll rise to the level of colluding with a hostile foreign power to attack the backbone of our political system. The backbone of what truly makes America different than the rest of the world. It truly is pathetic.
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Old 01-09-2019, 10:10 AM   #56
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Im pretty sure I shared a teachable moment with you sometime back about this, but I may be wrong...so here you go (again?).

Please take the time.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hi...m-russia-deal/
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Old 01-09-2019, 10:19 AM   #57
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Trumps campaign manager shares polling data with a hostile govt who is actively targetting his opponent with misinformation campaigns. But what does Russia get out of it? Removing sanctions, allowing Russia to get away with annexing another country, etc. by changing the Republican platform. I'm sure there's some laws broken in there somewhere, obviously they are receiving something of value, but the more important question is if this is something the president of the United States should be involved in? I don't really care about the laws on the books, I seriously doubt our founding fathers thought someone with the extreme lack of patriotism to have his political opponents attacked by a foreign adversary would be elected president. Go ahead and defend him Trumpers, talk about how none of it matters, etc. and then remember your words the next time a dem president is sitting there with controversy on their hands. I doubt it'll rise to the level of colluding with a hostile foreign power to attack the backbone of our political system. The backbone of what truly makes America different than the rest of the world. It truly is pathetic.
First not sure who if anyone is defending Manafort. Trump fired him because he looked shady. No one argued that he did not commit numerous felonies.

Second, nothing in the filing indicated that the Trump campaign knew about any of this.

Third there are no dates given as to when this meeting took place and the actual data provided. Your assuming that it involved Hillary which is doubtful. Manafort was only involved with the campaign for 5 months. 4 of the 5 months of his involvement was with the convention and primary battle with Cruz. I seem to think it is unlikely that he flew out right after the convention and had this meeting and had accurate polling data to target Hillary months after he left he campaign.

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Old 01-09-2019, 10:33 AM   #58
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Trumps campaign manager shares polling data with a hostile govt who is actively targetting his opponent with misinformation campaigns. But what does Russia get out of it? Removing sanctions, allowing Russia to get away with annexing another country, etc. by changing the Republican platform. I'm sure there's some laws broken in there somewhere, obviously they are receiving something of value, but the more important question is if this is something the president of the United States should be involved in? I don't really care about the laws on the books, I seriously doubt our founding fathers thought someone with the extreme lack of patriotism to have his political opponents attacked by a foreign adversary would be elected president. Go ahead and defend him Trumpers, talk about how none of it matters, etc. and then remember your words the next time a dem president is sitting there with controversy on their hands. I doubt it'll rise to the level of colluding with a hostile foreign power to attack the backbone of our political system. The backbone of what truly makes America different than the rest of the world. It truly is pathetic.
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Old 01-09-2019, 11:07 AM   #59
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Trumps campaign manager shares polling data with a hostile govt who is actively targetting his opponent with misinformation campaigns. But what does Russia get out of it? Removing sanctions, allowing Russia to get away with annexing another country, etc. by changing the Republican platform. I'm sure there's some laws broken in there somewhere, obviously they are receiving something of value, but the more important question is if this is something the president of the United States should be involved in? I don't really care about the laws on the books, I seriously doubt our founding fathers thought someone with the extreme lack of patriotism to have his political opponents attacked by a foreign adversary would be elected president. Go ahead and defend him Trumpers, talk about how none of it matters, etc. and then remember your words the next time a dem president is sitting there with controversy on their hands. I doubt it'll rise to the level of colluding with a hostile foreign power to attack the backbone of our political system. The backbone of what truly makes America different than the rest of the world. It truly is pathetic.
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Old 01-09-2019, 11:23 AM   #60
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It is neat to see the progression from "NO COLLUSION! RUSSIAN HOAX!" to "So what!?"
Point out the actual collusion. You know, where promise made for this result/advantage for Trump in his election battle with Hillary.
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