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Old 10-30-2018, 05:23 AM  
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Trump is going to "End Birthright Citizenship"

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/30/trum...tizenship.html

Trump wants to sign an order to end birthright citizenship, setting up a constitutional battle

Trump plans to sign an executive order that would remove the right to citizenship for babies of non-citizens and unauthorized immigrants born on U.S. soil, he said Monday in an exclusive interview for “Axios on HBO.”

The move would also likely lead to another stand-off between the U.S. president and the courts, Axios reported.

President Donald Trump is planning to terminate birthright citizenship, according to a report by Axios, potentially setting up another stand-off between the U.S. president and the courts.

Trump plans to sign an executive order that would remove the right to citizenship for babies of non-citizens and unauthorized immigrants born on U.S. soil, he said Monday, according to Axios which used the exclusive interview to promote a new documentary series called “Axios on HBO.”

“This would be the most dramatic move yet in Trump’s hardline immigration campaign, this time targeting ‘anchor babies’ and ‘chain migration’,” Axios said in its report.

Trump’s comments come as he continues to push a hard anti-immigration line ahead of the midterms this month, and many experts will highlight that it’s not within the president’s power to change birthright citizenship.

“It was always told to me that you needed a constitutional amendment. Guess what? You don’t,” Trump reportedly said, declaring he can do it by using an executive order.

Trump said he had run the idea of ending birthright citizenship by his counsel and plans to proceed, despite likely controversy. However, during the same interview Trump expressed surprise that Axios knew about his secret plan: “I didn’t think anybody knew that but me. I thought I was the only one,” he said.
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Old 10-30-2018, 07:49 AM   #46
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The 14th Amendment is crystal clear in what it says, and it doesn’t include any qualifiers like the 2nd Amendment does.
The only qualifier in the 2nd amendment is "shall not be infringed upon" retard.
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Old 10-30-2018, 07:51 AM   #47
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The only qualifier in the 2nd amendment is "shall not be infringed upon" retard.
Do hardcore 2nders consider themselves part of a militia?
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Old 10-30-2018, 07:53 AM   #48
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You aren't very ****ing smart are you? Well we already knew that.
Neither the 2nd nor the 14th Amendment should be overturned by presidential fiat. Can we at least agree on this? Or does your knee jerk tribalism force you to carry water for literally any dumbass thing Trump tweets out?
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Old 10-30-2018, 07:55 AM   #49
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Neither the 2nd nor the 14th Amendment should be overturned by presidential fiat. Can we.m not at least agree on this?
The 2nd amendment has already been modified, what part of that is hard to understand?
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Old 10-30-2018, 07:55 AM   #50
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Militia in the vernacular at the time of the Framers meant "the people."

Hence:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Donger moves more leftward. But I thought he knew how commas were used.
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Old 10-30-2018, 07:55 AM   #51
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Do hardcore 2nders consider themselves part of a militia?
Why are you asking stupid questions completely unrelated to the topic again?
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Old 10-30-2018, 07:57 AM   #52
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I would rather give them a swift boot in the ass back to their home country. You are arguing semantics, not common sense.
You can't do that if they aren't subject to US jurisdiction numbnuts.
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Old 10-30-2018, 07:58 AM   #53
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Militia in the vernacular at the time of the Framers meant "the people."

Hence:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Donger moves more leftward. But I thought he knew how commas were used.
They meant "men" actually. And those men formed militias which were intended to provide defense for their local communities and states.

Hence, my question. It's not that hard to understand or answer.
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Old 10-30-2018, 07:59 AM   #54
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They meant "men" actually. And those men formed militias which were intended to provide defense for their local communities and states.

Hence, my question. It's not that hard to understand or answer.
How does a militia get formed Donger?
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Old 10-30-2018, 07:59 AM   #55
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I have no issue with birthright citizenship being heavily augmented or ended altogether, but this is absolutely not the way to go about it.
#Me too.

Oops! Wrong issue for that expression.

Tho' I think Trump's is using his typical Art of the Deal tactics here in order to create a lot of motion and uproar — even deliberate confusion — to bring it round to where it needs to be. So I am willing to hear this thing out and watch the entertainment it brings.
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Old 10-30-2018, 07:59 AM   #56
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Why are you asking stupid questions completely unrelated to the topic again?
It's not a stupid question at all. Militias are an integral part of the 2nd Amendment. If you don't want to answer, that's fine.
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Old 10-30-2018, 07:59 AM   #57
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It's not a stupid question at all. Militias are an integral part of the 2nd Amendment. If you don't want to answer, that's fine.
How does a militia get formed Donger?
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Old 10-30-2018, 08:00 AM   #58
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Why are you asking stupid questions completely unrelated to the topic again?
That's what he does. He's obsessed with Jeopardy.

Patteeu's doing it a lot now as well.
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How does a militia get formed Donger?
Social media. Fliers. Town criers.

Why is that relevant to my question or that post?
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The **** did I say anything about the second amendment? Seriously, the literacy crisis in this nation is massive.
How many strawman arguments have you made by now?

You're not one who should be complaining about literacy.
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