Home Mail Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > The Lounge > Washington DC and The Holy Land

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-30-2018, 05:23 AM  
BanHam BanHam is offline
Veteran
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Casino cash: $500
Trump is going to "End Birthright Citizenship"

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/30/trum...tizenship.html

Trump wants to sign an order to end birthright citizenship, setting up a constitutional battle

Trump plans to sign an executive order that would remove the right to citizenship for babies of non-citizens and unauthorized immigrants born on U.S. soil, he said Monday in an exclusive interview for “Axios on HBO.”

The move would also likely lead to another stand-off between the U.S. president and the courts, Axios reported.

President Donald Trump is planning to terminate birthright citizenship, according to a report by Axios, potentially setting up another stand-off between the U.S. president and the courts.

Trump plans to sign an executive order that would remove the right to citizenship for babies of non-citizens and unauthorized immigrants born on U.S. soil, he said Monday, according to Axios which used the exclusive interview to promote a new documentary series called “Axios on HBO.”

“This would be the most dramatic move yet in Trump’s hardline immigration campaign, this time targeting ‘anchor babies’ and ‘chain migration’,” Axios said in its report.

Trump’s comments come as he continues to push a hard anti-immigration line ahead of the midterms this month, and many experts will highlight that it’s not within the president’s power to change birthright citizenship.

“It was always told to me that you needed a constitutional amendment. Guess what? You don’t,” Trump reportedly said, declaring he can do it by using an executive order.

Trump said he had run the idea of ending birthright citizenship by his counsel and plans to proceed, despite likely controversy. However, during the same interview Trump expressed surprise that Axios knew about his secret plan: “I didn’t think anybody knew that but me. I thought I was the only one,” he said.
Posts: 2,038
BanHam 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBanHam 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBanHam 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBanHam 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBanHam 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBanHam 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBanHam 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBanHam 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBanHam 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBanHam 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBanHam 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitelli
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2018, 05:37 AM   #2
DaKCMan AP DaKCMan AP is offline
Beloved & Awesome CP Celebrity
 
DaKCMan AP's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Florida
Casino cash: $15052
Deflection and empty blabber. An executive order doesn't supersede a constitutional amendment.

Yawn.
__________________
Posts: 35,173
DaKCMan AP has disabled reputation
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2018, 05:49 AM   #3
Lex Luthor Lex Luthor is offline
Supporter
 
Lex Luthor's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2010
Casino cash: $22875
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP View Post
Deflection and empty blabber. An executive order doesn't supersede a constitutional amendment.

Yawn.
This isn't something to yawn about. This is a wannabe dictator telling us he plans to issue an Executive Order to nullify the 14th Amendment to the US Constitution.

Would you have "yawned" if Obama had said he planned to issue an Executive Order to nullify the 2nd Amendment?

Of course you wouldn't. You'd have said Obama was a deranged lunatic. And you would have been right.

At what point will you start taking Trump seriously? If he succeeds in nullifying the 14th Amendment with an EO, what would stop him from nullifying the 22nd Amendment?

Let that sink in after you use Google to look up what the 22nd Amendment is.
__________________
.
Posts: 14,441
Lex Luthor is obviously part of the inner Circle.Lex Luthor is obviously part of the inner Circle.Lex Luthor is obviously part of the inner Circle.Lex Luthor is obviously part of the inner Circle.Lex Luthor is obviously part of the inner Circle.Lex Luthor is obviously part of the inner Circle.Lex Luthor is obviously part of the inner Circle.Lex Luthor is obviously part of the inner Circle.Lex Luthor is obviously part of the inner Circle.Lex Luthor is obviously part of the inner Circle.Lex Luthor is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2018, 05:54 AM   #4
BanHam BanHam is offline
Veteran
 

Join Date: Oct 2017
Casino cash: $500
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP View Post
Deflection and empty blabber. An executive order doesn't supersede a constitutional amendment.

Yawn.

There are constitution/legal experts who disagree with you:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.8d946f117e0d


- Anton said that Trump could, via executive order, "specify to federal agencies that the children of noncitizens are not citizens" simply because they were born on U.S. soil. (It’s not yet clear whether Trump will take this maximalist argument, though his previous rhetoric suggests there’s a good chance.)

- John Eastman, a constitutional scholar and director of Chapman University's Center for Constitutional Jurisprudence, told "Axios on HBO" that the Constitution has been misapplied over the past 40 or so years. He says the line "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" originally referred to people with full, political allegiance to the U.S. — green card holders and citizens.


> At last - someone has the courage to end this insanity.
__________________
I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this forum if you have any questions or concerns.
Posts: 2,038
BanHam 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBanHam 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBanHam 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBanHam 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBanHam 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBanHam 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBanHam 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBanHam 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBanHam 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBanHam 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBanHam 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitelli
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2018, 06:00 AM   #5
DaKCMan AP DaKCMan AP is offline
Beloved & Awesome CP Celebrity
 
DaKCMan AP's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Florida
Casino cash: $15052
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lex Luthor View Post
This isn't something to yawn about. This is a wannabe dictator telling us he plans to issue an Executive Order to nullify the 14th Amendment to the US Constitution.

Would you have "yawned" if Obama had said he planned to issue an Executive Order to nullify the 2nd Amendment?

Of course you wouldn't. You'd have said Obama was a deranged lunatic. And you would have been right.

At what point will you start taking Trump seriously? If he succeeds in nullifying the 14th Amendment with an EO, what would stop him from nullifying the 22nd Amendment?

Let that sink in after you use Google to look up what the 22nd Amendment is.
Lol, you're attacking the wrong person. Trump is a deranged lunatic. This claim, however, has zero chance of coming to fruition. He's playing to his uneducated base, gaslighting.
__________________
Posts: 35,173
DaKCMan AP has disabled reputation
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2018, 06:03 AM   #6
SuperBowl4 SuperBowl4 is offline
Veteran
 

Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: HERMOSA BEACH,CA
Casino cash: $5000
won't happen
Posts: 4,641
SuperBowl4 would the whole thing.SuperBowl4 would the whole thing.SuperBowl4 would the whole thing.SuperBowl4 would the whole thing.SuperBowl4 would the whole thing.SuperBowl4 would the whole thing.SuperBowl4 would the whole thing.SuperBowl4 would the whole thing.SuperBowl4 would the whole thing.SuperBowl4 would the whole thing.SuperBowl4 would the whole thing.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2018, 06:06 AM   #7
DaKCMan AP DaKCMan AP is offline
Beloved & Awesome CP Celebrity
 
DaKCMan AP's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Florida
Casino cash: $15052
Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperBowl4 View Post
won't happen
Bingo. It's a stunt. Just like sending troops to the border because we're being "invaded."

Trump is the biggest source of fake news.
__________________
Posts: 35,173
DaKCMan AP has disabled reputation
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2018, 06:07 AM   #8
dlphg9 dlphg9 is offline
MVP
 
dlphg9's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2010
Casino cash: $9753
Come on Trumpturds. Defend him on this one. I'm waiting for Taco to come in with some bat shit theory blaming Soros.
Posts: 5,049
dlphg9 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.dlphg9 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.dlphg9 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.dlphg9 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.dlphg9 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.dlphg9 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.dlphg9 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.dlphg9 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.dlphg9 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.dlphg9 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.dlphg9 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2018, 06:15 AM   #9
TambaBerry TambaBerry is offline
MVP
 
TambaBerry's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2013
Casino cash: $21641
what is so bad about this? He is trying to get this issue into the supreme courts hands so that this can be interpreted correctly. An illegal shouldn't be able to just come across the border and spit out a baby to make it a citizen of the united states.
Posts: 7,501
TambaBerry is too fat/Omaha.TambaBerry is too fat/Omaha.TambaBerry is too fat/Omaha.TambaBerry is too fat/Omaha.TambaBerry is too fat/Omaha.TambaBerry is too fat/Omaha.TambaBerry is too fat/Omaha.TambaBerry is too fat/Omaha.TambaBerry is too fat/Omaha.TambaBerry is too fat/Omaha.TambaBerry is too fat/Omaha.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2018, 06:18 AM   #10
Katipan Katipan is offline
MER
 
Katipan's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Colorado
Casino cash: $30451
Because his resorts love birthright citizenship. And have for decades.
So no he's not sincere.
So no it won't happen.
__________________
"I'd rather you hate me for everything I am.
Than have you love me for something that I can't."
Posts: 15,976
Katipan is obviously part of the inner Circle.Katipan is obviously part of the inner Circle.Katipan is obviously part of the inner Circle.Katipan is obviously part of the inner Circle.Katipan is obviously part of the inner Circle.Katipan is obviously part of the inner Circle.Katipan is obviously part of the inner Circle.Katipan is obviously part of the inner Circle.Katipan is obviously part of the inner Circle.Katipan is obviously part of the inner Circle.Katipan is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2018, 06:22 AM   #11
BanHam BanHam is offline
Veteran
 

Join Date: Oct 2017
Casino cash: $500
Legally speaking - this matter is rather simple.

- The EO in question will end the improper granting of citizenships which have no legal basis.

- Up till now, the Executive Branch has been granting citizenship to anyone born here, but there is no law authorizing such a grant of citizenship. This EO will tell his subordinates to simply stop the improper behavior.

- EO's can be neutralized by other EO's issued later - which is a problem.

- Eventually (perhaps soon) this action will be codified into law by Congress.

- This is certainly what POTUS plans to initiate after the mid-terms when conservatives have a majority in both the House and the Senate.

- The matter will certainly make it's way to SCOTUS.
__________________
I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this forum if you have any questions or concerns.
Posts: 2,038
BanHam 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBanHam 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBanHam 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBanHam 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBanHam 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBanHam 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBanHam 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBanHam 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBanHam 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBanHam 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBanHam 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitelli
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2018, 06:28 AM   #12
HonestChieffan HonestChieffan is offline
Seeking the Truth daily
 
HonestChieffan's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: In the Country in MO
Casino cash: $34409
Quote:
Originally Posted by BanHam View Post
Legally speaking - this matter is rather simple.

- The EO in question will end the improper granting of citizenships which have no legal basis.

- Up till now, the Executive Branch has been granting citizenship to anyone born here, but there is no law authorizing such a grant of citizenship. This EO will tell his subordinates to simply stop the improper behavior.

- EO's can be neutralized by other EO's issued later - which is a problem.

- Eventually (perhaps soon) this action will be codified into law by Congress.

- This is certainly what POTUS plans to initiate after the mid-terms when conservatives have a majority in both the House and the Senate.

- The matter will certainly make it's way to SCOTUS.

Nice summary. This will not set the end time in motion. The Constitution will still exist and in spite of LoonyLex's assertion, this would not make Trump a dictator.
__________________
Frazod to KC Nitwit..."Hey, I saw a picture of some dumpy bitch with a horrible ****tarded giant back tattoo and couldn't help but think of you." Simple, Pure, Perfect. 7/31/2013

Dave Lane: "I have donated more money to people in my life as an atheist that most churches ever will."

Come home to Jesus Dave. Come home.
Posts: 46,280
HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2018, 06:59 AM   #13
Prison Bitch Prison Bitch is offline
Where's my WALL?
 
Prison Bitch's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Lees summit
Casino cash: $60258
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lex Luthor View Post
This isn't something to yawn about. This is a wannabe dictator telling us he plans to issue an Executive Order to nullify the 14th Amendment to the US Constitution.

Would you have "yawned" if Obama had said he planned to issue an Executive Order to nullify the 2nd Amendment?

Of course you wouldn't. You'd have said Obama was a deranged lunatic. And you would have been right.

At what point will you start taking Trump seriously? If he succeeds in nullifying the 14th Amendment with an EO, what would stop him from nullifying the 22nd Amendment?

Let that sink in after you use Google to look up what the 22nd Amendment is.


All lies, all coming from a retard^^^^
__________________
This latest murder in no way represents Islam.
Posts: 60,944
Prison Bitch is obviously part of the inner Circle.Prison Bitch is obviously part of the inner Circle.Prison Bitch is obviously part of the inner Circle.Prison Bitch is obviously part of the inner Circle.Prison Bitch is obviously part of the inner Circle.Prison Bitch is obviously part of the inner Circle.Prison Bitch is obviously part of the inner Circle.Prison Bitch is obviously part of the inner Circle.Prison Bitch is obviously part of the inner Circle.Prison Bitch is obviously part of the inner Circle.Prison Bitch is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2018, 07:01 AM   #14
kstater kstater is offline
Custom User Title
 
kstater's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2007
Casino cash: $16663
So the next president can end the 2nd amendment with an EO and all.should be fine no?




*not actually advocating for this

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk
Posts: 35,229
kstater is too fat/Omaha.kstater is too fat/Omaha.kstater is too fat/Omaha.kstater is too fat/Omaha.kstater is too fat/Omaha.kstater is too fat/Omaha.kstater is too fat/Omaha.kstater is too fat/Omaha.kstater is too fat/Omaha.kstater is too fat/Omaha.kstater is too fat/Omaha.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2018, 07:02 AM   #15
gonefishin53 gonefishin53 is online now
Starter
 

Join Date: Dec 2010
Casino cash: $12099
When the 14th Amendment was being debated in Congress, the word "jurisdiction" was declared to mean anyone subject to a charge of treason (complete jurisdiction). Only U.S. citizens are subject to a charge of treason. By judicial fiat (United States vs Wong Kim Ark), that standard has been amended to mean subject to a charge of littering. The original standard of complete jurisdiction would require at least on biological parent to be subject to a charge of treason in order to provide birthright citizenship.

It will make for an interesting court case to decide whether the standard for the word "jurisdiction" can be radically amended from subject to a charge of treason to subject to a charge of littering by the federal judiciary.
Posts: 594
gonefishin53 has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.gonefishin53 has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.gonefishin53 has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.gonefishin53 has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.gonefishin53 has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.gonefishin53 has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.gonefishin53 has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.gonefishin53 has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.gonefishin53 has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.gonefishin53 has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.gonefishin53 has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.
  Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:54 PM.


This is a test for a client's site.
Fort Worth Texas Process Servers
Covering Arlington, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie and surrounding communities.
Tarrant County, Texas and Johnson County, Texas.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.