Home Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Nzoner's Game Room
Reload this Page Chiefs Veach's '21 Offseason Plan to Keep Us Thriving: Let's speculate
Register FAQDonate Members List Calendar

Reply
Page 6 of 319 « First 2345 6 789101656106 Last »
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-08-2021, 10:03 AM  
Dante84 Dante84 is offline
Tossed Salad & Scrambled Eggs
 
Dante84's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: ATX & OPKS
Casino cash: $1811996
VARSITY
Veach's '21 Offseason Plan to Keep Us Thriving: Let's speculate
In order to prevent us wasting precious years of Patrick Mahomes' career, Veach needs to work some magic this offseason. What's your advice for him?
Posts: 19,597
Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2021, 01:09 PM   #76
O.city O.city is offline
In Search of a Life
 
O.city's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2009
Casino cash: $2774064
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Franchise View Post
You can restructure Mahomes, Hill and Kelce’s deals plus extend Mathieu to gain cap space.
Extend hill right?
Posts: 81,205
O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2021, 01:10 PM   #77
htismaqe htismaqe is offline
'Tis my eye!
 
htismaqe's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Chiefsplanet
Casino cash: $10269900
Quote:
Originally Posted by TEX View Post
Interesting take with Clyde and Sneed being A+ picks. I come to that conclusion if I switch the rounds they were drafted in. Meaning I switch the picks around and see excellent value as a pair. Sneed is A+ regardless, Clyde maybe a B for a 1st round pick.
CEH was near the top of the league in yards after contact and near the bottom in yards before contact.

The offensive line has a lot to do with how he played.
Posts: 100,022
htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.
 Thumbs Up 2 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2021, 01:11 PM   #78
htismaqe htismaqe is offline
'Tis my eye!
 
htismaqe's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Chiefsplanet
Casino cash: $10269900
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city View Post
And?

Extend, convert whatever.

They know the cap will continue to explode. Kick towards the future and keep winning
It's not that easy when you have guys like Fisher and Clark that you might want to jettison but can't because of their deals.

Just pushing everything to the future is how you end up not making it back to the big game.
Posts: 100,022
htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2021, 01:12 PM   #79
MAHOMO 4 LIFE! MAHOMO 4 LIFE! is offline
In Search of a Life
 
MAHOMO 4 LIFE!'s Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2018
Casino cash: $6850400
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city View Post
Extend hill right?
Hill and Mathieu both need to be extended. Kelce just signed a huge deal so I do how you can restructure that and Mahomes I have no idea
Posts: 21,180
MAHOMO 4 LIFE! Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.MAHOMO 4 LIFE! Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.MAHOMO 4 LIFE! Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.MAHOMO 4 LIFE! Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.MAHOMO 4 LIFE! Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.MAHOMO 4 LIFE! Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.MAHOMO 4 LIFE! Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.MAHOMO 4 LIFE! Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.MAHOMO 4 LIFE! Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.MAHOMO 4 LIFE! Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.MAHOMO 4 LIFE! Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
     Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2021, 01:13 PM   #80
The Franchise The Franchise is offline
Most Valuable Villain
 
The Franchise's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2006
Casino cash: $3135047
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city View Post
Extend hill right?
That works as well, yeah.
Posts: 91,991
The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2021, 01:13 PM   #81
htismaqe htismaqe is offline
'Tis my eye!
 
htismaqe's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Chiefsplanet
Casino cash: $10269900
Quote:
Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! View Post
Hill and Mathieu both need to be extended. Kelce just signed a huge deal so I do how you can restructure that and Mahomes I have no idea
Yeah, there's not much you can do with Kelce.
Posts: 100,022
htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2021, 01:15 PM   #82
duncan_idaho duncan_idaho is offline
M-I-Z-Z-O-U
 
duncan_idaho's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Kansas City
Casino cash: $1780308
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Franchise View Post
You can restructure Mahomes, Hill and Kelce’s deals plus extend Mathieu to gain cap space.
And restructure Chris Jones as well.

They can create space. The question is how much they want to create/need to create.

They can generate $15M easily from Jones and could push it to $20M if needed. Same with Mahomes.

I don't know that they'll touch Kelce again, but they can extend Mathieu and pick up a bunch, they can extend Hill and add some, and they can either extend or injury settlement Eric Fisher to create some. Same with Schwartz, who - even if he retires - will function like a regular cut and save them $6M.

There are no major extension candidates this year.

The Chiefs will be able to find room. I think it makes the most sense to find room to spend on a C or RT as there will be some good ones available and the prices on those positions are generally reasonable in free agency.
__________________
"You gotta love livin', cause dying is a pain in the ass."
---- Sinatra
Posts: 21,077
duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2021, 01:17 PM   #83
The Franchise The Franchise is offline
Most Valuable Villain
 
The Franchise's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2006
Casino cash: $3135047
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe View Post
Yeah, there's not much you can do with Kelce.
Convert some of this base salary to a signing bonus.

He’s 32 and has a cheap cap hit next year at $7.5 million. Up his cap hits in 2022 and 2023 and then extend him if you want when he’s 34-35.
Posts: 91,991
The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2021, 01:18 PM   #84
ModSocks ModSocks is offline
Needs more middle fingers
 
ModSocks's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: San Diego
Casino cash: $4304563
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city View Post
We had 7 dollars in cap space this time last year and ended up bringing everyone back

And y’all worried

They’ll figure it out.
Agreed.
__________________
It's O'side or No side, baby.
Posts: 64,198
ModSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ModSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ModSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ModSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ModSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ModSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ModSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ModSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ModSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ModSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ModSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2021, 01:21 PM   #85
O.city O.city is offline
In Search of a Life
 
O.city's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2009
Casino cash: $2774064
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe View Post
CEH was near the top of the league in yards after contact and near the bottom in yards before contact.

The offensive line has a lot to do with how he played.
Still wish we wouldn’t have spent a 1 on a rb
Posts: 81,205
O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2021, 01:23 PM   #86
htismaqe htismaqe is offline
'Tis my eye!
 
htismaqe's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Chiefsplanet
Casino cash: $10269900
Quote:
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho View Post
And restructure Chris Jones as well.

They can create space. The question is how much they want to create/need to create.

They can generate $15M easily from Jones and could push it to $20M if needed. Same with Mahomes.

I don't know that they'll touch Kelce again, but they can extend Mathieu and pick up a bunch, they can extend Hill and add some, and they can either extend or injury settlement Eric Fisher to create some. Same with Schwartz, who - even if he retires - will function like a regular cut and save them $6M.

There are no major extension candidates this year.

The Chiefs will be able to find room. I think it makes the most sense to find room to spend on a C or RT as there will be some good ones available and the prices on those positions are generally reasonable in free agency.
The center market might be a little pricey this year. They're talking about Reiter getting in excess of $10M per.
Posts: 100,022
htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2021, 01:23 PM   #87
Hog's Gone Fishin Hog's Gone Fishin is offline
Fish are scared of me
 
Hog's Gone Fishin's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2001
Casino cash: $1730477
Draft defense
Draft more Defense
Then draft extra Defense.

Fill the OL with FA pickups. there's going to be cuts this year like we've never seen due to the Cap decrease.

Pickup a good WR in FA also.
Posts: 40,331
Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2021, 01:25 PM   #88
ModSocks ModSocks is offline
Needs more middle fingers
 
ModSocks's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: San Diego
Casino cash: $4304563
Priority #1 has to be a legitimate swing tackle. A guy who's mostly a RT but can play LT until Fisher is ready.

Both our tackle spots are sketchy as **** going into the season. I'd like to see a tackle and a guard or two picked up in F/A, and then another tackle picked up in the draft.

Due to injury and lack of production there are legitimate holes on this roster and Veach has his work cut out for him this offseason. Surely he has a plan.
__________________
It's O'side or No side, baby.
Posts: 64,198
ModSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ModSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ModSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ModSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ModSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ModSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ModSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ModSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ModSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ModSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ModSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.
 Thumbs Up 2 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2021, 01:25 PM   #89
The Franchise The Franchise is offline
Most Valuable Villain
 
The Franchise's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2006
Casino cash: $3135047
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe View Post
The center market might be a little pricey this year. They're talking about Reiter getting in excess of $10M per.
I would rather draft one and plug him in if we can.
Posts: 91,991
The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.
 Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2021, 01:44 PM   #90
duncan_idaho duncan_idaho is offline
M-I-Z-Z-O-U
 
duncan_idaho's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Kansas City
Casino cash: $1780308
I just ran through the following:

1) Restructure Chris Jones (saves $11M on 21 cap hit)
2) Extend Mathieu (added 3 years, turned it into a 4/$60M deal, which is roughly market value, structured it so I save $11M on 2021 cap)
3) Extend Eric Fisher for one year. I trimmed his 2021 base to $2m, gave him a $4m signing bonus to, saved $8M on 21)
4) Cut Mitchel Schwartz (simulates a retirement on his part, saves $6M against 21 cap)

That puts the Chiefs at $166M in cap liabilities. If the cap gets chopped to $175M they still can sign rookies without doing anything painful. If it ends up at $185M they still have enough room to make a few moves in FA. If it stays flat at $195M they're in awesome shape.
__________________
"You gotta love livin', cause dying is a pain in the ass."
---- Sinatra
Posts: 21,077
duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Reply
Page 6 of 319 « First 2345 6 789101656106 Last »

« Previous Thread | > Nzoner's Game Room < | Next Thread »

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:24 AM.

Contact Us - ChiefsPlanet - Archive - Top

This is a test for a client's site.
Fort Worth Texas Process Servers
Covering Arlington, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie and surrounding communities.
Tarrant County, Texas and Johnson County, Texas.
Advertise with us!
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.