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Athletic linebackers like O'Daniel are earning high marks from NFL scouts because they need to cover the middle of the field in passing situations. ACC coaches recognized O'Daniel's talent in 2017, naming him second-team all-conference after he led the Tigers with 103 tackles, including 11.5 for loss and five sacks, as well as three pass breakups in 14 starts. One of the top outside linebacker recruits in the nation after an excellent high school career in the Washington, D.C. metro area (all-state in Maryland with 1,307 rushing yards, 18 touchdowns as senior, 16.5 tackles for loss, five sacks as junior). O'Daniel redshirted in 2013, and then got into the action regularly as a freshman, starting once and leading the team with 13 special teams tackles (had 31 total stops, sack) in 12 games played. He once again paced the team with 19 special teams stops in 2015, and was credited with 32 total tackles in 15 games as a reserve. Given a chance to play more on defense as a junior (10 starts in 15 games), O'Daniel used his quickness and tenacious nature to make 60 stops, 10 for loss, and 2.5 sacks.

What O'Daniel lacks in size and speed at the linebacker spot, he makes up for with production and consistency. He may not have the tools to become a quality full-time starter at linebacker, but his outstanding career as a special teams cover talent could be enough to earn him a roster spot and a place in the league for years to come.

Strengths
  • Madman on special teams
  • Finished career with 48 special teams tackles and most of them in kick coverage
  • Has a gift for playing past kick return blocks and maintaining focus on the returner
  • Technically sound as tackler
  • Sees what he hits and drives upper body into target while wrapping to finish
  • Possesses agility for lateral tackles against cutback runs
  • Hustles to contain against perimeter runs
  • Offers versatility
  • Played near the line and matched up on slot targets
  • Redirects routes with force
  • Reads and squeezes from zone
  • Finished 2017 with seven passes defensed including two pick-six interceptions

Weaknesses
  • Just one season as starter
  • Has the frame of a big safety, but is an average athlete in space
  • Is a little sluggish in his directional change and needs a runway to get accelerate to top speed
  • Pursuit speed is below par
  • Often blocked by smaller slot players against spread rushing attacks
  • Needs to prove he can beat blocks near the line of scrimmage on next level
  • Gives up separation when matched in man coverage
  • Plays upright and needs to do better job of anticipating routes




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Old 04-29-2018, 01:17 PM   #121
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You guys are going to love DOD! He is seriously one of the most sure tacklers i can remember, never worried one bit if he was one on one in space against any player WR/TE/RB. Db speed with lb mentality and over all heady player. He became a leader on our vaulted defense, college granted. However, many of his biggest games were against top competition, and made plays on a ton of now NfL guys. Never in trouble or any major injuries during his CU career. Special teams demon earlier at CU. He is as well coached coming out of college as possible under Brent Venables and held many other higher ranked LBs off the field during his last two years. DoD also covered slot recievers during his time here with little issues, hes the new prototype LB NFL teams need in pass happy league.

Dabo is qouted as saying "he is one of the best players to come through our program since he(Dabo) has been here".

Im super excited to watch yall this year with Sammy and DOD!! Hope yall have a great year!

Thank you and certainly stick around, you seem nice. I'm in Atlanta and one of my co-workers played LB for Clemson in 2005-2008ish for about 3 seasons under Bowden.
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Old 04-29-2018, 06:36 PM   #122
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I think we will be comparing him against Shaq Griffin for awhile. Should be interesting.
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Old 04-30-2018, 10:58 AM   #123
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Wanted to re-post this, want to know what other CP'ers think of the comparison:

My guess is that Dorian O'Daniel will have the most significant impact- Chiefs love to be in nickel and dime packages and Dorian's body type and skill set make him a natural fit for the hybrid linebacker position. I've seen a few individuals want to compare Dorian O'Daniel to Kam Chancellor but I haven't seen many comparisons to Deion Jones of the Atlanta Falcons, just take a look at Deion Jones draft video and also combine numbers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv2H-h52L60

"Hybrid linebacker-safety"
"Undersized Will"
"Sub package dime"
"Special team standout"

Sound familiar?

Now combine/pro-day numbers:

Jones:
6'1 222 LBS
40-yard dash: 4.38 seconds (ran a 4.59 at the combine though)
20-yard short shuttle: 4.26 seconds
3-cone: 7.13 seconds
Vertical: 35 1/2 inches
Bench press: 18 reps of 225 pounds

O'Daniel:
6'1 223 LBS
40-yard dash: 4.61 seconds
20-yard short shuttle: 4.07 seconds
3-cone: 6.64 seconds
Vertical: 32.0 inches
Bench press: 21 reps of 225 pounds

Obviously Deion Jones seems to have an extra gear for the 40 yard dash but all the acceleration metrics O'Daniel had better numbers, very similar size. You watch their tape and I think O'Daniel was definitely used more in coverage (O'Daniel lined up a ton at the slot position) than Jones was but I think the comparison is an interesting one.

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Old 04-30-2018, 11:03 AM   #124
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Yeah, 4.3 to 4.6 though, I'm guessing the other was quick timed.

O'Daniel is pretty athletic.
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Old 04-30-2018, 11:33 AM   #125
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Wanted to re-post this, want to know what other CP'ers think of the comparison:

My guess is that Dorian O'Daniel will have the most significant impact- Chiefs love to be in nickel and dime packages and Dorian's body type and skill set make him a natural fit for the hybrid linebacker position. I've seen a few individuals want to compare Dorian O'Daniel to Kam Chancellor but I haven't seen many comparisons to Deion Jones of the Atlanta Falcons, just take a look at Deion Jones draft video and also combine numbers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv2H-h52L60

"Hybrid linebacker-safety"
"Undersized Will"
"Sub package dime"
"Special team standout"

Sound familiar?

Now combine/pro-day numbers:

Jones:
6'1 222 LBS
40-yard dash: 4.38 seconds (ran a 4.59 at the combine though)
20-yard short shuttle: 4.26 seconds
3-cone: 7.13 seconds
Vertical: 35 1/2 inches
Bench press: 18 reps of 225 pounds

O'Daniel:
6'1 223 LBS
40-yard dash: 4.61 seconds
20-yard short shuttle: 4.07 seconds
3-cone: 6.64 seconds
Vertical: 32.0 inches
Bench press: 21 reps of 225 pounds

Obviously Deion Jones seems to have an extra gear for the 40 yard dash but all the acceleration metrics O'Daniel had better numbers, very similar size. You watch their tape and I think O'Daniel was definitely used more in coverage (O'Daniel lined up a ton at the slot position) than Jones was but I think the comparison is an interesting one.
This is definitely an undervalued move in the draft by national pundits. In our sub packages, Dirty Dan was arguably the biggest liability on the field. Not only a liability on the field, but a financial liability of $5 million a year. This guy feels a huge need and could recoup $4.5 million of cap savings if we let Dirty Dan go post June 1st. The cap money could than be utilized to pick up additional help along the OL or at CB. This pick allows the team a ton of flexibility IMO.
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Old 04-30-2018, 01:56 PM   #126
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Listened to Stick to football podcast, the douchebag Mello said he doesn’t fit KCs defense and wasn’t a good pick. JFC just listen to Brett Veach. He explained how he fits. Just a lazy thing to say if you don’t like it
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Listened to Stick to football podcast, the douchebag Mello said he doesn’t fit KCs defense and wasn’t a good pick. JFC just listen to Brett Veach. He explained how he fits. Just a lazy thing to say if you don’t like it
Yea it makes you look like a complete ****ing idiot when you clearly have no clue but you’re pretending you do.
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Old 04-30-2018, 02:09 PM   #128
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Yea it makes you look like a complete ****ing idiot when you clearly have no clue but you’re pretending you do.
He also doesn’t like Mahomes, so he’s clearly a ****ing moron
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We'll see how he progresses in camp, but this guy is my favorite pick so far

His tweener versatility is whats going to get him on the field early and often
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Old 04-30-2018, 07:08 PM   #133
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Clemson Tiger here, gained a new fan today!

You guys are going to love DOD! He is seriously one of the most sure tacklers i can remember, never worried one bit if he was one on one in space against any player WR/TE/RB. Db speed with lb mentality and over all heady player. He became a leader on our vaulted defense, college granted. However, many of his biggest games were against top competition, and made plays on a ton of now NfL guys. Never in trouble or any major injuries during his CU career. Special teams demon earlier at CU. He is as well coached coming out of college as possible under Brent Venables and held many other higher ranked LBs off the field during his last two years. DoD also covered slot recievers during his time here with little issues, hes the new prototype LB NFL teams need in pass happy league.

Dabo is qouted as saying "he is one of the best players to come through our program since he(Dabo) has been here".

Im super excited to watch yall this year with Sammy and DOD!! Hope yall have a great year!
I just cringed when i saw tiger in someones name, advocating for a newly acquired player.

There is bad history with that here.

But welcome.

Most people seem to not be very enthused with this draft but i love it. They added talent at a bunch of lacking defensive positions and got a possible starting guard at some point in the 6th round.
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Good article on how the Chiefs could use the middle of the field depending on offensive alignment.

Having guys like Hitchens, Berry and DOD to stop the run or play in coverage will help a lot and will disguise the defense while providing more versatility.
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