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Old 01-09-2019, 06:58 PM  
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Old 01-10-2019, 03:10 PM   #136
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Okay. So where in the **** did this reputation that he can develop QBs come from?
Nobody has said he has one.

I just think he’s a good young offensive mind that has more upside to pair up with Darnold than McCarthy.

Regardless of what happened 5-10 years ago, McCarthy simply couldn’t get it done with arguably the best QB ever.

One was loved/respected by the HOF QB they coached, while the other was ran off by theirs.

I know exactly what I’m getting with McCarthy, at least with Gase there’s the potential for something better with a better QB and roster.
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Old 01-10-2019, 03:14 PM   #137
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If Tannehill can throw for 4,000 yards and 27 TDs with Joe Philbin and Dan Campbell as his head coach there is something there to develop.
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Old 01-10-2019, 03:15 PM   #138
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If Tannehill can throw for 4,000 yards and 27 TDs with Joe Philbin and Dan Campbell as his head coach there is something there to develop.
How the **** do you develop it when he can’t stay on the ****ing field?

JFC dude, you can’t possibly be this stupid
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Old 01-10-2019, 03:21 PM   #139
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He essentially got 1 year with Tannehill and he still missed 3 games. Year one.

They were 10-6 and made the playoffs despite being in the same division as the Pats.

Since then he missed all of 2017, and 5 games this year. Not to mention Wilson, Parker, Stills, and Grant all missed significant time.

You can’t beat Brady and Belichick when your QB can’t stay healthy. It’s that simple.

When the **** was Gase supposed to truly show what he can do with a young QB?
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Old 01-10-2019, 03:23 PM   #140
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Ryan Tannehill was "on the field" down the stretch this season and performed miserably.

11/25 for 108 yards vs Minnesota

15/22 for 146 yards and the pick 6 that ended the game/season vs. Jacksonville

18 for 31 for 147 yards and 2 INT's vs. Buffalo

That is the QB that Adam Gase has developed during the past three years in Miami.

Tannehill's production actually got worse under Gase's coaching.
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Old 01-10-2019, 03:30 PM   #141
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On the other hand, look at the list of guys you listed for Gase - Alex Smith's backup, Brady Quinn, Tim Tebow, Jay Cutler, and Ryan Tannehill. How is he supposed to develop THAT? There's literally nothing there TO develop.
So what is the tangible evidence/results that makes Adam Gase a QB guru?
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By the end of the season the Dolphins WR core was depleted, their OL was trash, and they had to lean on their running game. They barely threw the ball down the stretch because they couldn’t.

You guys just continue to ignore context. It’s amazing.
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The funny thing is, if Tannehill plays 16 games, the Dolphins probably could’ve made the playoffs for the second time in 3 years.

I don’t care what the stats were. He did about as well as anybody could’ve been expected to do in that shitty of a situation.
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Old 01-10-2019, 03:37 PM   #144
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I just think he’s a good young offensive mind
Adam Gase is a "good young offensive mind" based on what?

Looking at the 5 teams he has coached with (as an assistant or HC) during the past 12 years, only the Denver teams with Manning had offenses ranked in the top 10.

All of the other offenses that Gase has been involved with have been outside of the top 10 in yardage/points, and most have been ranked in the bottom half of the league.

How does that resume make him a "good young offensive mind"? Back-up your dumbshit statement.
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Old 01-10-2019, 03:42 PM   #145
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The funny thing is, if Tannehill plays 16 games, the Dolphins probably could’ve made the playoffs for the second time in 3 years.


Yes if Ryan Tannehill, a.k.a. the same guy who choked down the stretch when the Dolphins had an opportunity to stay alive and clinch a playoff berth played the entire season, the Dolphins would have made the playoffs.

So you are just going to ignore Ryan Tannehill throwing a horrific pick 6 vs. Jacksonville, losing the game and eliminating them from the playoffs?
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Adam Gase is a "good young offensive mind" based on what?

Looking at the 5 teams he has coached with (as an assistant or HC) during the past 12 years, only the Denver teams with Manning had offenses ranked in the top 10.

All of the other offenses that Gase has been involved with have been outside of the top 10 in yardage/points, and most have been ranked in the bottom half of the league.

How does that resume make him a "good young offensive mind"? Back-up your dumbshit statement.
Funny how you want to remove anything and everything Gase did with Manning like it never happened then turn around and give McCarthy all of this credit for winning 1 ****ing SB in 10 ****ing years with the most talented QB in NFL history.

News flash: McCarthy didn’t handpick Rodgers either.

I still think there’s a possibility that Gase had a role in that record breaking offense, but needs a legitimate franchise QB to show it. It doesn’t hurt that Peyton Manning also genuinely felt this way.

The one year he had Tannehill for at least 13 games, he made the playoffs. I’m not going to hold 2017 and 2018 against him given the circumstances of those seasons.

He just hasn’t really been given an opportunity to truly succeed or fail.

McCarthy on the other hand just got kicked to curb by arguably the GOAT QB because his ****ing offense sucks dick. Gase had a better record in a MUCH worse situation, another detail you continue to ignore.

I’m supposed to believe he can do better with a young guy with warts like Darnold that’s probably not going to be as good?
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Yes if Ryan Tannehill, a.k.a. the same guy who choked down the stretch when the Dolphins had an opportunity to stay alive and clinch a playoff berth played the entire season, the Dolphins would have made the playoffs.

So you are just going to ignore Ryan Tannehill throwing a horrific pick 6 vs. Jacksonville, losing the game and eliminating them from the playoffs?
This is all irrelevant. He’s still not Brock. They were better with him than without him and missed the playoffs by just a couple games, while he was out 5.

Not only are you ignoring the fact that Tannehill has been a brokedick since Gase got there, you’re also saying he’s so bad it wouldn’t have made a difference.

So which is it? Is Tannehill so bad or is Gase?

It’s entirely possible that he could’ve made a difference as mediocre as he is.
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Old 01-10-2019, 03:55 PM   #148
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Funny how you want to remove anything and everything Gase did with Manning like it never happened then turn around and give McCarthy all of those credit for winning 1 SB in 10 years with the most talented QB in NFL history.News flash: McCarthy didn’t handpick Rodgers either.
You seriously can't see the difference in developing a second year QB who had barely taken an NFL snap (which is what Aaron Rodgers was when McCarthy arrived in Green Bay in 2006), versus coaching a 12 year established NFL veteran/future HOF QB (which is what Manning was when Gase coached him in Denver).

You seriously can't differentiate between those two situations?

Also you criticizing McCarthy for "only" winning one Super Bowl with Aaron Rodgers is funny considering Denver won zero Super Bowls with Manning in Denver when Gase was the OC.

In fact the one Super Bowl appearance Denver/Manning did have with Gase as OC was when their offense was humiliated by Seattle, only scoring 8 points in garbage time. Talk about "underachieving" as an offense.
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Old 01-10-2019, 03:58 PM   #149
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So which is it? Is Tannehill so bad or is Gase?
Based on production, Tannehill became a worse QB under Gase.

But you don't operate in the world of facts so that is likely irrelevant to you.
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You seriously can't see the difference in developing a second year QB who had barely taken an NFL snap (which is what Aaron Rodgers was when McCarthy arrived in Green Bay in 2006), versus coaching a 12 year established NFL veteran/future HOF QB (which is what Manning was when Gase coached him in Denver).

You seriously can't differentiate between those two situations?

Also you criticizing McCarthy for "only" winning one Super Bowl with Aaron Rodgers is funny considering Denver won zero Super Bowls with Manning in Denver when Gase was the OC.

In fact the one Super Bowl appearance Denver/Manning did have with Gase as OC was when their offense was humiliated by Seattle, only scoring 8 points in garbage time. Talk about "underachieving" as an offense.

No, I can see the difference, but that doesn’t change the fact that Rodgers was there for 1 year without McCarthy and sat behind Favre. We’ve all seen what that one year can do with a generational talent.

The truth is, we have no ****ing clue how much of a role McCarthy played in that, just like Gase. I do know one thing, one got a ton of credit for their work, while the other was let go and treated like they did nothing but hold them back. As much as you want to pretend this distinction means nothing in this conversation it does.

You want me to technically give McCarthy some credit for developing Rodgers? Fine, but I’m not going to sit here and pretend Rodgers wasn’t going to be Rodgers with or without Mike ****ing McCarthy, just like Manning with Gase.

Also, so Gase gets none of the credit and all of the blame for what happens with Manning? Got it.
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