Chiefs trade for LB Reggie Ragland

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Chiefs have acquired LB Reggie Ragland from the Bills in a trade.

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[cooper barrett]

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

Hopefully he doesn't grow a giant forehead.

Or a dry sense of humor...

[KChiefs1]

Originally Posted by hometeam

How anyone is down on this I'm not sure.



No risk, tons of upside. What's there to be mad about?

Veach has made some great moves so far.

[ModSocks]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Wut

He's coming off an ACL and was never a fast, freak athlete to begin with. He looked slow coming out of college and i don't imagine his knee injury has helped. 3rd on the depth chart for the bills? I understand scheme and all that, but good players find their way on the field regardless.

Something is clearly amiss in buffalo and if i had to guess, i'd imagine his knee has slowed him quite a bit and needs more time to heal.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

He's coming off an ACL and was never a fast, freak athlete to begin with. He looked slow coming out of college and i don't imagine his knee injury has helped. 3rd on the depth chart for the bills? I understand scheme and all that, but good players find their way on the field regardless.

Something is clearly amiss in buffalo and if i had to guess, i'd imagine his knee has slowed him quite a bit and needs more time to heal.

Correct. Don't expect anything till next year.

[Buckweath]

I like this move. Now, Veach needs to have a long and hard look at our CBs. I feel like Gaines is somewhat underrated around here but he obviously is not great by any means. If we can get good play from our corners after Peters, I don't see how this defense is not a top 5 or borderline top 5 defense.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by hometeam

How anyone is down on this I'm not sure.

No risk, tons of upside. What's there to be mad about?

But muh 4th rounder!!!!!

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

He's coming off an ACL and was never a fast, freak athlete to begin with. He looked slow coming out of college and i don't imagine his knee injury has helped. 3rd on the depth chart for the bills? I understand scheme and all that, but good players find their way on the field regardless.

Something is clearly amiss in buffalo and if i had to guess, i'd imagine his knee has slowed him quite a bit and needs more time to heal.

Agreed but still an upgrade over last years guys like Justin March and DJ Alexander.

[WhawhaWhat]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

But muh 4th rounder!!!!!

Chiefs 4th round picks over the last 10 years:

2017 Jehu Chesson
2016 Eric Murray, Demarcus Robinson
2015 Ramik Wilson
2014 De'Anthony Thomas
2013 Nico Johnson
2012 Devon Wylie
2011 Jalil Brown
2010 None
2009 Donald Washington
2008 Will Franklin

[Unsmooth-Moment]

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

Chiefs 4th round picks over the last 10 years:

2017 Jehu Chesson
2016 Eric Murray, Demarcus Robinson
2015 Ramik Wilson
2014 De'Anthony Thomas
2013 Nico Johnson
2012 Devon Wylie
2011 Jalil Brown
2010 None
2009 Donald Washington
2008 Will Franklin

Yeah, looking at that we probably need to try and trade our 4th every year.

[Best22]

Originally Posted by Buckweath

I like this move. Now, Veach needs to have a long and hard look at our CBs. I feel like Gaines is somewhat underrated around here but he obviously is not great by any means. If we can get good play from our corners after Peters, I don't see how this defense is not a top 5 or borderline top 5 defense.

Gaines is not a starter. We have Peters, Nelson, and Mitchell

[RunKC]

Biggest problem with Ramik Wilson is he can't shed blockers and he's slow to diagnose running plays.

Ragland excels at those 2 things which is what makes him such an intriguing fit. Plus we really need a thumper next to DJ and this guy seems to be it.
He was completely lost playing in a system he has no clue about, so I don't blame the Bills for trading him.

You see slower guys like Brandon Marshall (4.8 40) and Donta Hightower (4.7 40)did well in a 3-4 due to the scheme and responsibility.

I think the plan is to have Ragland play a similar role.

[Best22]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Biggest problem with Ramik Wilson is he can't shed blockers and he's slow to diagnose running plays.

Ragland excels at those 2 things which is what makes him such an intriguing fit. Plus we really need a thumper next to DJ and this guy seems to be it.

He was completely lost playing in a system he has no clue about. I don't blame the Bills for trading him.

I don't see Ramik losing his job. I think the defense will be Ragland and Wilson next year. DJ will likely move on. Just hard to see him being better than two young linebackers in 2018

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Best22

I don't see Ramik losing his job. I think the defense will be Ragland and Wilson next year. DJ will likely move on. Just hard to see him being better than two young linebackers in 2018

I think the Chiefs want to have Eligwe and Ragland be the future. I've been impressed by Eligwe so far. He's fast and seems to understand what he's doing.

[ndws]

In the case of a conditional pick getting traded, how often do they devalue? Obviously if he plays, and meets criteria we give up the 4th.

Do a lot of the conditional picks (in this case) become a 5th or 6th instead? I'm assuming if he flat out doesn't make the team, then no compensation goes to the Bills. But, generically speaking, I was curious about the basic structure of a conditional pick.

[jjchieffan]

Originally Posted by RunKC

I think the Chiefs want to have Eligwe and Ragland be the future. I've been impressed by Eligwe so far. He's fast and seems to understand what he's doing.

It would be nice if they both pan out. We have never really had anyone more than serviceable next to DJ. And now DJ is nearing the end of his career. Our chances of finding another ILB that is as good as DJ are slim, so we expect to see a drop in production there. We need two solid young guys in the middle. If we could get both of those spots filled this year, that would be awesome.