Better Call Saul

[rico]

As I am sure many of y'all already know, a spinoff of "Breaking Bad" titled "Better Call Saul" will be airing in 2014. This is going to be a prequel to Breaking Bad and will be based on the character of Saul Goodman from "Breaking Bad."

I, for one, will be watching. I'm sure the majority of all of you other "Breaking Bad" fans will be as well. Might as well get the discussion going sooner rather than later.

So... what are your hopes, expectations and/or concerns with the show? Here are some of mine:

Hopes: I hope to see Saul do his thing in the courtroom. I hope to see strong, unique supporting characters. I hope to see Breaking Bad foreshadowing. I hope he has an intriguing paralegal and/or assistant. I hope to see Breaking Bad characters such as Fring, Mike, etc...whoever. I hope the show kicks ass.

Expectations: I don't expect it to be as good as "Breaking Bad" (because nothing else is, really), but I expect it to be good since Vince Gilligan is writing. I somewhat expect it to have an even balance of comedy and drama...since Saul undeniably provides a substantial amount of comedic relief in "Breaking Bad." I expect to see "courtroom Saul." I expect the "Breaking Bad" references and character cameos to be less than what I hope. If it isn't even a fraction as good as "Breaking Bad," I expect it to be better than 95% of everything else on TV, since there is some shitty shit on TV these days.

Concerns: I'd be a liar if I were to say that I didn't think this show has potential of flopping and certainly failing to meet the presumed high expectations of the audience. Don't get me wrong, I think it will be good... but I think it COULD suck if not executed properly. My main concern is Saul ultimately proving himself to be a "little dab will do ya" type of character, which would lead to a show centered around his character not working out. I am hoping that the character of Saul will not be so over-used and constantly over the top, that he becomes annoying to me, thus ruining his character for me altogether... Not saying I think this will be how it goes down...just saying I think there is a CHANCE of this being the case, which prompts me to believe that a strong supporting cast is VITAL in terms of the amount of success/quality this show will accumulate. All in all, I don't think VG will steer us in an unfortunate direction though...I think they'll pull it off.

Thoughts?

DISCUS!!!!

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by Pennywise

Or unwatchable.

I read from a reviewer who never saw BB and work with someone who's in the same category.

They love the show.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Pennywise

Or unwatchable.

Hard to see how.

I had never watched BB until a couple of months ago and Saul easily vaulted to the top of my favorite shows list.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by Pennywise

Or unwatchable.

I have not seen a show that everyone likes.


It simply doesn't exist.

[sedated]

It would be interesting to flip it and see BCS before BB so that everything is in order. I wonder if the easter eggs that we notice in BCS would be flipped and get the same reaction when seen later in BB.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by sedated

It would be interesting to flip it and see BCS before BB so that everything is in order. I wonder if the easter eggs that we notice in BCS would be flipped and get the same reaction when seen later in BB.

If you could forget everything about BB it would be awesome.


"Holy shit! That's the Ken investor guy that got ****ed out of a bar tab!"

"Saul Goodman is Jimmy! Holy Shit! Saul is going to be Badger's lawyer!"

"Saul's guy is Mike!, Awesome!"

"Walt is getting involved with Tuco? He better watch out!"

"Gus is the man. Walt is going to learn a lot about the business."


It goes on and on.

[siberian khatru]

Originally Posted by notorious

If you could forget everything about BB it would be awesome.


"Holy shit! That's the Ken investor guy that got ****ed out of a bar tab!"

"Saul Goodman is Jimmy! Holy Shit! Saul is going to be Badger's lawyer!"

"Saul's guy is Mike!, Awesome!"

"Walt is getting involved with Tuco? He better watch out!"

"Gus is the man. Walt is going to learn a lot about the business."


It goes on and on.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by siberian khatru

I know.


Walt is the smartest moron, ever.

[stumppy]

Watching the scene in the restaurant again. I think they screwed this one. Jimmy is way to obvious. He worked the streets before. He stands out like a sore thumb. I don't buy it.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by stumppy

Watching the scene in the restaurant again. I think they screwed this one. Jimmy is way to obvious. He worked the streets before. He stands out like a sore thumb. I don't buy it.

Good point.


Slippin' Jimmy isn't a buffoon.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by stumppy

Watching the scene in the restaurant again. I think they screwed this one. Jimmy is way to obvious. He worked the streets before. He stands out like a sore thumb. I don't buy it.

Yeah, he's a goofball though. More of a smooth talker than a spy.

When I originally watched that part I thought the guy with the bag had left something on the ground and Gus picked it up with the broom and dustpan. Then at the end when he leaves the phone on the tracker...

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by stumppy

Watching the scene in the restaurant again. I think they screwed this one. Jimmy is way to obvious. He worked the streets before. He stands out like a sore thumb. I don't buy it.

I watched it again too, and I think it was perfect character study and highlighted the juxtaposition between Mike and Jimmy.

Mike, Gus and Kim are all type A and meticulous in everything they do. They do not take shortcuts. They study the task in front of them from behind the scenes and only act when it is the next calculated move, rarely any decision is made out of impulse.

Jimmy, on the other hand, thrives only when he's the center of attention. Slippin' Jimmy was built off of him creating a scene and being the star of the show. He takes control of situations not from deliberate study of others, but from utilizing his showsmanship to gain instant gratification from his actions. It's this type of corner cutting that his brother loathes, and Chuck has never fully understood how Jimmy's showy personality makes him so likable in contrast with himself.

Jimmy was way out of his element in Los Pollos. He was tasked to be a fly on the wall, invisible, a task of which he was so badly overmatched that he couldn't even exit the restaurant without making a scene.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

I too watched it again, but I think it was perfect character study and highlighted the juxtaposition between Mike and Jimmy.

Mike, Gus and Kim are all type A and meticulous in everything they do. They do not take shortcuts. They study the task in front of them from behind the scenes and only act when it is the next calculated move, rarely any decision is made out of impulse.

Jimmy, on the other hand, thrives only when he's the center of attention. Slippin' Jimmy was built off of him creating a scene and being the star of the show. He takes control of situations not from deliberate study of others, but from utilizing his showsmanship to gain instant gratification from his actions. It's this type of corner cutting that his brother loathes, and Chuck has never fully understood how Jimmy's showy personality makes him so likable in contrast with himself.

Jimmy, in the restaurant, was way out of his element. He was tasked to be a fly on the wall, invisible, a task of which he was so badly overmatched that he couldn't even exit the restaurant without making a scene.

Good observation.

[Demonpenz]

makes mike look dumb. Why didn't mike hire one of his guys to do it.

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by Demonpenz

makes mike look dumb. Why didn't mike hire one of his guys to do it.

I don't know if he has "guys" at this point.

[Demonpenz]

just seems weird he would get guys then the guys would be in jail by the time bb starts