Football Explain how anyone is stopping the Saints from winning it all. - Page 6

Hammock Parties · 11-12-2017, 04:01 PM

7-2

Winners of seven in a row.

Just blew out a very decent Bills team, 47-10, IN BUFFALO. They outgained them 482-198.

They have Drew Brees, but they also ran for 298 ****ING YARDS today. Their running game and their defense is top 10. Brees has been sacked a grand total of EIGHT times this year.

Brees hasn't had a top 10 defense AND running game, since, uh, NEVER. The last time he had a ground game this good?

Right now I'm taking the Saints over everyone in the AFC, and in an NFCCG, I'll take Brees' experience over Carson Wentz's youth.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-13-2017, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Right now I'm taking the Saints over everyone in the AFC, and in an NFCCG, I'll take Brees' experience over Carson Wentz's youth.

The Saints will have to get past the Eagles excellent defense, which will be difficult for them, as the Vikings shut them down, as did New England.

The Saints have beaten a bunch of cupcakes in Green Bay (no Rodgers), the Bills, Bears, Bucs, Dolphins and Lions.

Their only "impressive" win was back in Week 3, when they beat the Panthers.

They still play at the Rams, have Atlanta twice, Carolina and a good Redskins defense ahead.

It's too early to crown their asses.

ChiliConCarnage · 11-13-2017, 12:30 PM

I think you've forgot about the Jesuits. They can easily stop this if they want to

KINGPIN CHIEFS FAN · 11-13-2017, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by lcarus

Yeah I'm positive Brees has Alex Smith in the back of his mind. "We're lighting it up and have a good chance to win it all, but **** me, I hope to hell we don't meet the Chiefs in the Super Bowl. They have Alex Smith!"

And that bend but don't break defense!

Reerun_KC · 11-13-2017, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 19now11

i know you all saw the alex and drew shootout playoff game that alex had 2 come from behind drives and flung a td to vd with no time remaining. we have better players here. alex will go full mvp on that bitch. alex is in his head!

Molitoth · 11-13-2017, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by lcarus

Yeah I'm positive Brees has Alex Smith in the back of his mind. "We're lighting it up and have a good chance to win it all, but **** me, I hope to hell we don't meet the Chiefs in the Super Bowl. They have Alex Smith!"

Chiefnj2 · 11-13-2017, 01:12 PM

I'm looking forward to watching the NFC playoff games. Eagles, Rams, Saints, and Seahawks all have a legitimate shot of making the Super Bowl. I'm not sold on the Vikings.

Amnorix · 11-13-2017, 01:15 PM

The 2007 Patriots told me all I'll ever need to know about banking a championship at any point in the season before it's a done deal.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-13-2017, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

I'm looking forward to watching the NFC playoff games. Eagles, Rams, Saints, and Seahawks all have a legitimate shot of making the Super Bowl. I'm not sold on the Vikings.

I don't see any way the Seahawks contend for a Super Bowl, especially after losing Richard Sherman for the season.

They have exactly one quality win: October 8th against the Rams.

Their other wins have come against the 49ers, Colts, Texans, Giants and Cardinals.

Not a winning team in the bunch.

They still face Atlanta, Philly, @Dallas, @Jacksonville and the Rams again. That looks like 1-3 at best if not 0-4.

Saints · 11-13-2017, 04:49 PM

How did the Saints turn it around?

Mostly through the draft and some changes in coaches.

The 2015 draft was mostly ok, with Andrus Peat in the first, who has been great this year at LG and LT when needed. PJ Williams in the third who is now their #3 CB and Tyeler Davison DT, in the fifth who has provided some quality snaps this year.

The 2016 Draft was solid. They only had 4 picks, but hit on all of them.

First Round, Sheldon Rankins DT, might not show up on a stat sheet, but he has been playing great, he takes double teams on almost every snap.

Second Round, Michael Thomas WR, 92 catches for 1137 yards last year as a rookie in a very complicated offense, this year through 9 games, 59 catches for 662 yards. His production made Brandin Cooks "expendable"... more on that later. And Vonn Bell S, who has been VERY solid, started last year and plays a pretty good bit when needed in the nickel and dime packages this year, has lost some playing time to a 2017 rookie.

Fourth Round, David Onyemata DT, who has been a great interior sub player, was VERY raw last year, but has all the makings of a very solid pro.

I forgot, Ken Crawley, UDFA, now a starting CB and playing great. Did not play the first two games of the year.

2017 Draft, quite possibly the best draft in the history of the franchise.

First Round, two picks:

Marshon Lattimore. I won't bore you with things you won't believe, even though they are true, but he's having the best rookie CB season ever and is on pace to have one of the best seasons ever by a CB. Teams don't even throw at him anymore. When playing man coverage, he has more interception return yards than he has given up in coverage. Should be Defensive Rookie of the Year.

Ryan Ramczyk OT, has played at a Pro Bowl level at RT all season. Unbelievable rookie season and had played every snap until Buffalo game, not sure if they took him out in the end. Superb run and pass blocker. (This was the pick from the Bradin Cooks trade, without Ram, the Line would have been in trouble.) Has graded out by PFF every week as no worse than 12th best RT. Extreme consistency.

Second Round:

Marcus Williams S, he has taken nearly every defensive snap and is a starter. Extremely solid player, deep range and incredible ball skills.

Round Three, three picks:

Alvin Kamara RB, amazing talent. Just incredible. Has been Offensive Rookie of the week twice and will be again this week. In the running for Offensive Rookie of the Year. (I know KC has a guy...hahah)

Alex Anzalone LB, he started early in the year and was injured. He looked very good when he played. Injury setback, but a "hit" on the draft pick.

Trey Hendrickson DE, has been really coming on lately.

Sixth Round, Al-Quadin Muhammad DE. Made the team, raw talent who has not seen much of the field because there are too many players ahead of him.

Coaching changes have really helped. I rather not say too much more, they don't need more publicity.

We like them!

A few really nice additions in Free Agency have also helped. Ted Ginn Jr., Manti te'o, A.J. Klein and Alex Okafor

And for those who say the Eagles are so much better, consider this (From a fellow member of Saints Report):

Eagles:
8-1 overall
Their opponents record (removing games vs. Eagles): 22-35, .386
Vs. winning teams: 1-1 (Panthers, Chiefs)

Saints:
7-2 overall
Their opponents record (removing games vs. Saints): 42-28, .600
Vs. winning teams: 4-2 (Panthers, Lions, Packers, Bills, Vikings, Patriots)

***************

I have always liked the Chiefs, you are very passionate fans. I don't like the Broncos, the Raiders are punks and the Chargers....hahah, they are the Chargers.

Oh, by the way, in that beat down of the Buffalo Bills, the Saints ran 24 straight running plays in the third and fourth quarters. The Bills KNEW what was coming and could not stop it. They score six rushing TD's and never punted. That hasn't happened in the NFL in decades.

T-post Tom · 11-13-2017, 04:56 PM

Never bet one team against the field with 7 games left in the regular season. Don't give two shits about NO unless they have another HOF LT they want to trade for a mid to late round pick.

RunKC · 11-13-2017, 05:01 PM

Aside from Michael Thomas and Alvin Kamara being great weapons, look at their revamped OL.

Terron Armstead
Andrus Peat
Max Unger
Larry Warford
Ryan Ramcyk

That's a very good OL

KCrockaholic · 11-13-2017, 05:52 PM

I don't think the Chiefs make it to the SB due to the poor defense. But if I can dream for a minute, I think a match up of KC vs NO or KC vs PHI would be my choices.

Sandy Vagina · 11-13-2017, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Aside from Michael Thomas and Alvin Kamara being great weapons, look at their revamped OL.

Terron Armstead
Andrus Peat
Max Unger
Larry Warford
Ryan Ramcyk

That's a very good OL

I had not even recognized that Armstead was back from injury. Yeah, that's not an OL to underrate. 1st in run block dvoa and 3rd in pass... and that's not even updated from this weekend's games.

Would be so funny to see Alex shove another postseason loss down Sean Payton's throat... but no way do I see our bottom tier defense being able to hold their own... oh well.

O.city · 11-13-2017, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The Saints will have to get past the Eagles excellent defense, which will be difficult for them, as the Vikings shut them down, as did New England.

The Saints have beaten a bunch of cupcakes in Green Bay (no Rodgers), the Bills, Bears, Bucs, Dolphins and Lions.

Their only "impressive" win was back in Week 3, when they beat the Panthers.

They still play at the Rams, have Atlanta twice, Carolina and a good Redskins defense ahead.

It's too early to crown their asses.

We could see the same type of threads with the chiefs in it if they chief it up and beat the also rams they're about to play.

7-0 heading into the playoffs? The homer boner here will be rock hard

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-13-2017, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

We could see the same type of threads with the chiefs in it if they chief it up and beat the also rams they're about to play.

7-0 heading into the playoffs? The homer boner here will be rock hard

Agreed.

The only two teams, IMO, that look like true Super Bowl teams are the Eagles and Patriots.

11-12-2017, 04:01 PM
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $4790478	Explain how anyone is stopping the Saints from winning it all. 7-2 Winners of seven in a row. Just blew out a very decent Bills team, 47-10, IN BUFFALO. They outgained them 482-198. They have Drew Brees, but they also ran for 298 ****ING YARDS today. Their running game and their defense is top 10. Brees has been sacked a grand total of EIGHT times this year. Brees hasn't had a top 10 defense AND running game, since, uh, NEVER. The last time he had a ground game this good? Right now I'm taking the Saints over everyone in the AFC, and in an NFCCG, I'll take Brees' experience over Carson Wentz's youth.
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11-13-2017, 04:49 PM	#84
Saints Rookie Join Date: Nov 2017 Casino cash: $10000400	Answers to some questions How did the Saints turn it around? Mostly through the draft and some changes in coaches. The 2015 draft was mostly ok, with Andrus Peat in the first, who has been great this year at LG and LT when needed. PJ Williams in the third who is now their #3 CB and Tyeler Davison DT, in the fifth who has provided some quality snaps this year. The 2016 Draft was solid. They only had 4 picks, but hit on all of them. First Round, Sheldon Rankins DT, might not show up on a stat sheet, but he has been playing great, he takes double teams on almost every snap. Second Round, Michael Thomas WR, 92 catches for 1137 yards last year as a rookie in a very complicated offense, this year through 9 games, 59 catches for 662 yards. His production made Brandin Cooks "expendable"... more on that later. And Vonn Bell S, who has been VERY solid, started last year and plays a pretty good bit when needed in the nickel and dime packages this year, has lost some playing time to a 2017 rookie. Fourth Round, David Onyemata DT, who has been a great interior sub player, was VERY raw last year, but has all the makings of a very solid pro. I forgot, Ken Crawley, UDFA, now a starting CB and playing great. Did not play the first two games of the year. 2017 Draft, quite possibly the best draft in the history of the franchise. First Round, two picks: Marshon Lattimore. I won't bore you with things you won't believe, even though they are true, but he's having the best rookie CB season ever and is on pace to have one of the best seasons ever by a CB. Teams don't even throw at him anymore. When playing man coverage, he has more interception return yards than he has given up in coverage. Should be Defensive Rookie of the Year. Ryan Ramczyk OT, has played at a Pro Bowl level at RT all season. Unbelievable rookie season and had played every snap until Buffalo game, not sure if they took him out in the end. Superb run and pass blocker. (This was the pick from the Bradin Cooks trade, without Ram, the Line would have been in trouble.) Has graded out by PFF every week as no worse than 12th best RT. Extreme consistency. Second Round: Marcus Williams S, he has taken nearly every defensive snap and is a starter. Extremely solid player, deep range and incredible ball skills. Round Three, three picks: Alvin Kamara RB, amazing talent. Just incredible. Has been Offensive Rookie of the week twice and will be again this week. In the running for Offensive Rookie of the Year. (I know KC has a guy...hahah) Alex Anzalone LB, he started early in the year and was injured. He looked very good when he played. Injury setback, but a "hit" on the draft pick. Trey Hendrickson DE, has been really coming on lately. Sixth Round, Al-Quadin Muhammad DE. Made the team, raw talent who has not seen much of the field because there are too many players ahead of him. Coaching changes have really helped. I rather not say too much more, they don't need more publicity. We like them! A few really nice additions in Free Agency have also helped. Ted Ginn Jr., Manti te'o, A.J. Klein and Alex Okafor And for those who say the Eagles are so much better, consider this (From a fellow member of Saints Report): Eagles: 8-1 overall Their opponents record (removing games vs. Eagles): 22-35, .386 Vs. winning teams: 1-1 (Panthers, Chiefs) Saints: 7-2 overall Their opponents record (removing games vs. Saints): 42-28, .600 Vs. winning teams: 4-2 (Panthers, Lions, Packers, Bills, Vikings, Patriots) ************* I have always liked the Chiefs, you are very passionate fans. I don't like the Broncos, the Raiders are punks and the Chargers....hahah, they are the Chargers. Oh, by the way, in that beat down of the Buffalo Bills, the Saints ran 24 straight running plays** in the third and fourth quarters. The Bills KNEW what was coming and could not stop it. They score six rushing TD's and never punted. That hasn't happened in the NFL in decades. Last edited by Saints; 11-13-2017 at 05:03 PM..
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11-13-2017, 04:56 PM	#85
T-post Tom Threepeat! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Milk/Honey/Gazland Casino cash: $4617293	Never bet one team against the field with 7 games left in the regular season. Don't give two shits about NO unless they have another HOF LT they want to trade for a mid to late round pick. __________________ You seem nice!
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RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $2329611	Aside from Michael Thomas and Alvin Kamara being great weapons, look at their revamped OL. Terron Armstead Andrus Peat Max Unger Larry Warford Ryan Ramcyk That's a very good OL __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Noah Gray
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11-13-2017, 05:52 PM	#87
KCrockaholic Sarcasm Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Olathe Casino cash: $4822900	I don't think the Chiefs make it to the SB due to the poor defense. But if I can dream for a minute, I think a match up of KC vs NO or KC vs PHI would be my choices.
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