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Old 01-22-2019, 01:52 PM  
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The case for Rex Ryan as new DC

Here’s why I’d be happy bringing in Rex Ryan to coach the defense...

1st is we wouldn’t need to overhaul the entire defense as the schemes are similar...but the philosophy is different.

Bob Sutton’s years as NYJs DC team rankings

First year
13th yards ...6th in points
2nd year
18th yards...19th points
3rd year
17th yards...18th points

Rex Ryan takes over HC the following year in09

1st year
1st in yards...1st in points

2nd year
3rd in yards....6th in points

Drastic and immediate improvement

More stats to come on why I think Rex would be a good hire...
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Old 01-22-2019, 04:35 PM   #136
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Yea here was Rex Ryan's adjustments for 10 years

Adjustment 1: Ed Reed please take away half of the field.

or

Adjustment 2: Darrelle Revis please take away half of the field.

Ready, break.
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Old 01-22-2019, 04:35 PM   #137
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Old 01-22-2019, 04:35 PM   #138
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Old 01-22-2019, 04:38 PM   #139
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Yea here was Rex Ryan's adjustments for 10 years

Adjustment 1: Ed Reed please take away half of the field.

or

Adjustment 2: Darrelle Revis please take away half of the field.

Ready, break.
God you're right the year they lost Revis they dropped to 22nd in passing defense! Oh but had 3rd best rushing defense.......

Again Ryan has never DCed a defense worse then 24th in points.

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For those of you saying HELL NO to Rex Ryan I'd like to point out a couple of things..............

Rex Ryan's Worst:

Points = 24th

Rushing Defense = 29th

Passing Defense = 22nd

Yards = 19th

Below I have highlighted with green boxes EVERYTIME his defense was top 10 in each of those categories

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Old 01-22-2019, 04:46 PM   #140
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Yea here was Rex Ryan's adjustments for 10 years

Adjustment 1: Ed Reed please take away half of the field.

or

Adjustment 2: Darrelle Revis please take away half of the field.

Ready, break.
So who do you want?
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Old 01-22-2019, 04:46 PM   #141
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It alone isn’t all you need but you do need it.

The greatest scheme in the world isn’t shit without effort and intensity.
That starts first with the players believing in their scheme.

I don't think Chris Jones will give any effort when he's forced into a 2-gap scheme. I don't think our players will give intensity if they're playing on their heels instead of attacking. They may be better coached. But it just seems like we're magnifying the same warts. Hell, even Sutton progressed his defense to get more pass rush from the front 7 instead of viewing the front 3 as a bunch of space eaters.
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Old 01-22-2019, 04:48 PM   #142
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So who do you want?
9 out of 12 years being top 10 in yards isn't good enough. I get the personality thing. But saying it Scheme, or Ryan Sucks is ****ing dumb.
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Old 01-22-2019, 04:53 PM   #143
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God you're right the year they lost Revis they dropped to 22nd in passing defense! Oh but had 3rd best rushing defense.......

Again Ryan has never DCed a defense worse then 24th in points.
So a top ten defense in at least ONE category every hear but one?

Pretty impressive.
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So who do you want?
Anyone else and any other scheme than the one we saw for the last 6 years. (No Ryans, no Suttons, No Ravens, No Jets from the early/mid 00s.) It's 2019, that scheme is outdated and has not changed with the way the current game is played.
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9 out of 12 years being top 10 in yards isn't good enough. I get the personality thing. But saying it Scheme, or Ryan Sucks is ****ing dumb.
The personality thing is dumb to me too...guys will kill themselves for him, he'll get more out of them than Bob Sutton or any other boring hire you bring in.
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So a top ten defense in at least ONE category every hear but one?

Pretty impressive.
Yeah and the year he wasn't was first year in Buffalo where he was middle of all the categories.....
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This board is always way too obsessed with the Ryans. I don't get it. Other than that they're loud and outspoken, which people love. I mean we literally just had a DC who last worked under Rex Ryan. This has to be 100% Ryan or his agent telling Schefter he'd listen if the Chiefs came calling.
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Anyone else and any other scheme than the one we saw for the last 6 years. (No Ryans, no Suttons, No Ravens, No Jets from the early/mid 00s.) It's 2019, that scheme is outdated and has not changed with the way the current game is played.
You're wrong....... I don't know how many more ways I can say this. Scheme still works fine, adjusting it was the problem.
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This board is always way too obsessed with the Ryans. I don't get it. Other than that they're loud and outspoken, which people love. I mean we literally just had a DC who last worked under Rex Ryan.
And didn't have near the career success Ryan has had.
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You're wrong....... I don't know how many more ways I can say this. Scheme still works fine, adjusting it was the problem.
Scheme is terrible. It relies on top end talent to execute. Has no flexibility to move people around. Players just stay in the same spot with the same responsibilities all game. That's how that scheme has always been minus a few outliers.
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