Football Tommy Nobis gets pancaked by Death

**Rain Man** · 10:38 PM

This is kind of a big deal. It's not often that a team's first-ever player passes away. There's a lot of talk that perhaps he lost an opportunity to be in the Hall of Fame because he went to an expansion team back when expansion teams didn't get vaults of players thrown at them.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...aign=editorial

Former Falcons LB, 5-Time Pro Bowler Tommy Nobis Dies at Age 74
ADAM WELLS
DECEMBER 13, 2017

Former Atlanta Falcons linebacker Tommy Nobis died Wednesday at the age of 74.

Per CNN's Jill Martin, Nobis had been ill for an extended period of time.

Statement from Falcons owner Arthur Blank on the passing of Tommy Nobis: pic.twitter.com/70l4ubFkFz

Nobis, the No. 1 overall in the 1966 NFL draft, was the Falcons' first-ever draft pick. He was named the Sporting News Defensive Rookie of the Year in his first season after being credited with 296 total tackles in 14 games.

From 1966-76, Nobis was named to the Pro Bowl five times, the All-Pro first team in 1967 and the NFL's All-Decade team for the 1960s.

The Falcons inducted Nobis into their Ring of Honor and retired his number 60 jersey in 2004. He was also inducted into the Georgia Sports Hall of Fame in 1983.

Sofa King · 12-13-2017, 10:48 PM

Michael Vick

**Rain Man** · 12-13-2017, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sofa King

Michael Vick

No, natural causes. Michael Vick only kills dogs.

Bewbies · 12-13-2017, 11:01 PM

If you’re named to the all decade team you should be in.

Sofa King · 12-13-2017, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

No, natural causes. Michael Vick only kills dogs.

At least 1 of those dogs was a very bad dog.

Scooter LaCanforno · 12-14-2017, 05:31 AM

Nobis was a good middle linebacker. Not Great. Nitschke, Lanier, Butkus, Curtis and Lambert were all Great players during that time period.

siberian khatru · 12-14-2017, 06:24 AM

Steve Bartkowski!

Pueblo Chieftan · 12-14-2017, 06:45 AM

GREAT PLAYER! Undeniably one of the greatest of all time. He was a man among boys. Prayers up for his family and friends!

R.I.P. Mr. Nobis.

redfan · 12-14-2017, 07:41 AM

Jesse Tuggle was a bona fide badass.

milkman · 12-14-2017, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Scooter LaCanforno

Nobis was a good middle linebacker. Not Great. Nitschke, Lanier, Butkus, Curtis and Lambert were all Great players during that time period.

No, No is was a great player who played with a team full garbage.

Those others were great as well, but they had great players all around them.

Nobis was all over making plays in spite of the lack of support.

Should have been inducted years ago.

Marcellus · 12-14-2017, 09:05 AM

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296 total tackles in 14 games.

**Rain Man** · 12-14-2017, 11:17 AM

I wonder who has the most pro bowls without a hall of fame selection. Because 8 for George Kunz is pretty impressive.

**Rain Man** · 12-14-2017, 11:29 AM

According to our friends at pro football reference, here are the guys with 7+ pro bowls who retired before 2012 and are not in the Hall of Fame. Which ones are most deserving?

I could certainly make a good argument for Johnny Robinson, and Jim Tyrer would definitely be in other than, you know, the thing at the end.

Among non-Chiefs, I'd go with Robert Brazile, or I hate to say it, Andy Russell. Nothing against Russell, but that Steelers defense gets too many accolades as it is.

Code:

Rk	Player	    Yrs	PB	AP1
10	Maxie Baughan	12	9	2
11	Ruben Brown	13	9	0
12	Brian Dawkins	16	9	4
13	Alan Faneca	13	9	6
14	John Lynch	15	9	2
18	Walt Sweeney	13	9	2
19	Jim Tyrer	14	9	6
22	Steve Atwater	11	8	2
24	Winston Hill	15	8	0
25	George Kunz	11	8	1
26	Kevin Mawae	16	8	3
27	Lemar Parrish	13	8	1
30	S. Wisniewski	13	8	2
31	Robert Brazile	10	7	2
33	Lomas Brown	18	7	1
34	Ed Budde	14	7	2
36	Randy Gradishar	10	7	2
37	Jay Hilgenberg	13	7	2
38	Chris Hinton	13	7	1
39	Torry Holt	11	7	1
42	Jack Kemp	10	7	2
46	Jerry Mays	10	7	2
47	Jon Morris	15	7	1
50	Johnny Robinson	12	7	6
51	Andy Russell	12	7	0
53	Steve Tasker	13	7	0
54	Zach Thomas	13	7	5
55	Richmond Webb	13	7	2

AssEaterChief · 12-14-2017, 02:05 PM

That's amazing there are that many guys with that many Pro Bowl appearances who aren't in the HOF.

I think if you qualified or were voted to a pro bowl over half your career you should be in.

**Bufkin** · 12-14-2017, 02:38 PM

Nobis is worthy, but Mike Kenn is our most deserving. The greatest player in NFL history that you’ve never heard of, and one of the greatest left tackles in league history.

View Poll Results: Which Falcon most deserves to be in the Hall of Fame?
William Andrews (RB) – 6 years with Falcons, 4 pro bowls	1	3.13%
Tommy Nobis (MLB) – 11 years, 5 pro bowls, 1960s NFL All-Decade Team	6	18.75%
R.C. Thielemann (G) – 12 years (8 with Falcons), 3 pro bowls	0	0%
Mike Kenn (OT) – 17 years with Falcons, 5 pro bowls	2	6.25%
Keith Brooking (ILB) – 15 years (11 with Falcons), 5 pro bowls	1	3.13%
Jesse Tuggle (ILB) - 14 years with Falcons, 5 pro bowls	4	12.50%
Jeff Van Note (C) – 18 years with Falcons, 6 pro bowls	0	0%
Gerald Riggs (RB) – 10 years (7 with Falcons), 3 pro bowls	0	0%
George Kunz (OT) – 11 years (6 with Falcons), 8 pro bowls	5	15.63%
Elbert Shelley (ST) – 10 years with Falcons, 4 pro bowls	0	0%
Bill Fralic (G) – 9 years (8 with Falcons), 4 pro bowls	0	0%
Andre Rison (WR) – 12 years (5 with Falcons), 5 pro bowls	3	9.38%
Alge Crumpler (TE) – 10 years (7 with Falcons), 4 pro bowls	0	0%
None of these players should be in the Hall of Fame	6	18.75%
I wasn't aware that Atlanta had an NFL team.	4	12.50%
Voters: 32. You may not vote on this poll

12-13-2017, 10:16 PM
Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $3358491 VARSITY	Tommy Nobis gets pancaked by Death This is kind of a big deal. It's not often that a team's first-ever player passes away. There's a lot of talk that perhaps he lost an opportunity to be in the Hall of Fame because he went to an expansion team back when expansion teams didn't get vaults of players thrown at them. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...aign=editorial Former Falcons LB, 5-Time Pro Bowler Tommy Nobis Dies at Age 74 ADAM WELLS DECEMBER 13, 2017 Former Atlanta Falcons linebacker Tommy Nobis died Wednesday at the age of 74. Per CNN's Jill Martin, Nobis had been ill for an extended period of time. Statement from Falcons owner Arthur Blank on the passing of Tommy Nobis: pic.twitter.com/70l4ubFkFz Nobis, the No. 1 overall in the 1966 NFL draft, was the Falcons' first-ever draft pick. He was named the Sporting News Defensive Rookie of the Year in his first season after being credited with 296 total tackles in 14 games. From 1966-76, Nobis was named to the Pro Bowl five times, the All-Pro first team in 1967 and the NFL's All-Decade team for the 1960s. The Falcons inducted Nobis into their Ring of Honor and retired his number 60 jersey in 2004. He was also inducted into the Georgia Sports Hall of Fame in 1983. Last edited by Rain Man; 12-13-2017 at 10:38 PM..
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Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $3358491 VARSITY	I wonder who has the most pro bowls without a hall of fame selection. Because 8 for George Kunz is pretty impressive. __________________ I'm putting random letters here as a celebration of free speech: xigrakgrah misorojeq rkemeseit.
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Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $3358491 VARSITY	According to our friends at pro football reference, here are the guys with 7+ pro bowls who retired before 2012 and are not in the Hall of Fame. Which ones are most deserving? I could certainly make a good argument for Johnny Robinson, and Jim Tyrer would definitely be in other than, you know, the thing at the end. Among non-Chiefs, I'd go with Robert Brazile, or I hate to say it, Andy Russell. Nothing against Russell, but that Steelers defense gets too many accolades as it is. Code: Rk Player Yrs PB AP1 10 Maxie Baughan 12 9 2 11 Ruben Brown 13 9 0 12 Brian Dawkins 16 9 4 13 Alan Faneca 13 9 6 14 John Lynch 15 9 2 18 Walt Sweeney 13 9 2 19 Jim Tyrer 14 9 6 22 Steve Atwater 11 8 2 24 Winston Hill 15 8 0 25 George Kunz 11 8 1 26 Kevin Mawae 16 8 3 27 Lemar Parrish 13 8 1 30 S. Wisniewski 13 8 2 31 Robert Brazile 10 7 2 33 Lomas Brown 18 7 1 34 Ed Budde 14 7 2 36 Randy Gradishar 10 7 2 37 Jay Hilgenberg 13 7 2 38 Chris Hinton 13 7 1 39 Torry Holt 11 7 1 42 Jack Kemp 10 7 2 46 Jerry Mays 10 7 2 47 Jon Morris 15 7 1 50 Johnny Robinson 12 7 6 51 Andy Russell 12 7 0 53 Steve Tasker 13 7 0 54 Zach Thomas 13 7 5 55 Richmond Webb 13 7 2 __________________ I'm putting random letters here as a celebration of free speech: xigrakgrah misorojeq rkemeseit. Last edited by Rain Man; 12-14-2017 at 11:35 AM..
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AssEaterChief Starter Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: SD Casino cash: $9992919	That's amazing there are that many guys with that many Pro Bowl appearances who aren't in the HOF. I think if you qualified or were voted to a pro bowl over half your career you should be in.
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