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Old 01-10-2019, 12:18 PM  
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Things that Democrats have funded that cost more than a border wall.

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Below are some examples of wasteful federal spending projects that individually cost more than the proposed border wall (data courtesy of Citizens Against Government Waste):

“Rural Utility Service.” This program costs taxpayers $8.2 billion/year and has no actual purpose after its original intent — bringing electricity to rural communities — was long ago achieved. It’s now being used to bring broadband access to small communities (usually with populations of less than 20,000). However there’s no indication the “beneficiaries” of this expensive government agency actually appreciate the program, and the majority of its projects are not completed on time or within budget.


Sugar Subsidies. America, as Democrats frequently intone, faces a health crisis. What they don’t tell us is that it’s largely of their own making, as Congress subsidizes the production of unhealthy foods like sugar and high-fructose corn syrup. Eliminating sugar subsidies alone would save $6 billion, enough to fund the border wall; it would also have the added benefit of helping curb the nation’s obesity epidemic.


Community Development Grants. These grants were created in the 70s to revitalize failing American cities. The program has almost always been plagued with dysfunction, with grants going to wealthy communities and other recipients failing to produce “accountability and results.” Citizens Against Government Waste reports that even President Obama called for reining in the program. It’s elimination would save $15 billion over 5 years.


The United Nations. As the United Nation’s largest contributor, the U.S. in 2016 donated $10 billion to the U.N. As CAGW notes, reducing these contributions just 25 percent would create a savings of $12.5 billion over 10 years. Of the money Congress appropriates for the United Nations, $5 million taxpayer dollars are itemized for abortions in foreign countries.

Amtrak. Congress could sell Amtrak to the private sector where it would almost certainly be operated more efficiently, but instead it’s showered in billions of dollars of taxpayer subsidies. Over the next five years, these subsidies will cost $9.7 billion.

Unused Real Estate. Congress appropriates money to maintain federal real estate that’s not actually being used. Per CAGW, an October 31, 2017, CRS report found that, “In FY2016, federal agencies owned 3,120 buildings that were vacant (unutilized), and another 7,859 that were partially empty (underutilized).” Current laws require the government to undergo a series of steps before considering a sale of these buildings. Were selling this unused property prioritized, the 5-year savings are estimated at $15 billion. Simply maintaining the unused buildings annually costs $1.7 billion.

Foreign Aid. American taxpayers currently spend more than $50 billion a year helping develop foreign countries. Many of the recipients are not known for being America’s closest allies — such as Egypt, South Sudan, Uganda, South Africa, Russia, the Congo, Sudan, and Zambia — which raises the question of what Americans are receiving in exchange for all of this aid. Cutting these donations back just 10 percent would be enough to fund the wall.

Waste, Fraud, and Abuse. The Government Accountability Office estimates taxpayers are spending more than $137 billion annually on “payment errors,” which covers all manner of waste, fraud, and abuse within Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. The feds could implement the same kind of fraud protections credit card companies used to ensure against abuse, but don’t. In fact, Congress has gone in the opposite direction, winding down the program intended to police fraud within Medicare, the so-called Recovery Audit Contractor. In other words, Congress is knowingly funding tens of billions of dollars of fraud annually.
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Old 01-11-2019, 07:10 PM   #31
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Is that her policy position, or is it something she said one time that you've taken out of context?
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Old 01-11-2019, 07:47 PM   #32
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Let's be honest. It ain't the $5 Billion. It's not giving Trump what he campaigned on. It's not giving him a victory.

At the end of the day, if he couldn't get the money out of a Republican controlled Congress, not sure why anyone would expect a Democratic controlled House to give it to him.
Republicans did vote to give him the wall. Democrats blocked it in the Senate. This is all on them.
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Old 01-12-2019, 10:42 AM   #33
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I’m wondering if the “they take jobs from teenagers” is still a thing. My sister in law who lives on the outskirts of Austin was telling me that the local fast food places pay $14 an hour, because they can’t fill their positions otherwise. Teenagers are too busy doing homework until 1:00 or 2:00 am to have a job.

Teenagers (American) don't want to work - period. That's the problem, parents have taken the "work ethic" out of 80% of the kids out there today. Video games and call phones are FAR more important.

Next, the illegals take these jobs and then, down the line want vacations, sick pay, 15-20 bucks an hour, pensions and finally union representation.

THAT my friend is what the problems are.
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Old 01-12-2019, 11:02 AM   #34
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I used to think free trade was a guiding principle of conservatism until Trump threw it in the trash. If you guys can flip flop on that then you will flip flop on anything.
Who is claiming Trump is a Conservative?
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Old 01-12-2019, 11:08 AM   #35
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Teenagers (American) don't want to work - period. That's the problem, parents have taken the "work ethic" out of 80% of the kids out there today. Video games and call phones are FAR more important.

Next, the illegals take these jobs and then, down the line want vacations, sick pay, 15-20 bucks an hour, pensions and finally union representation.

THAT my friend is what the problems are.
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Old 01-12-2019, 11:11 AM   #36
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That’s exactly what they favor. So why keep up the charade, they should just admit it publicly

Well, that's the thing about the fascist left. Hold out one hand and hide the other..


They are famous for that. Learned it from Marx.
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Repealing or fixing all of the above would have been difficult in two years. They fixed none of it. EVERY rep and senators owns all of those things as they are the ones who can change it. It’s not a Dem thing, but a US govt thing.
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