Mock (1/25)

Direckshun · 01-25-2022, 10:39 PM

Assumptions:

1. The Chiefs do well this postseason. HC Andy Reid and GM Brett Veach are retained.

2. The Chiefs franchise: OT Orlando Brown.

3. The Chiefs cut: DE Frank Clark, ILB Anthony Hitchens

4. The Chiefs extended: WR Tyreek Hill for 4 years, $80m ($52m guaranteed), WR Byron Pringle for 2 years, $6m; DE Melvin Ingram, 2 years $12 million ($4m guaranteed); CB Charvarious Ward for 3 years, $37m ($18m guaranteed).

5. The Chiefs tender: WR Marcus Kemp, TE Jody Fortson, CB Chris Lammons

6. The Chiefs re-sign to minimal deals: RB Jerick McKinnon, RB Darrel Williams, RB Derrick Gore, FB Michael Burton, TE Blake Bell, OG Andrew Wylie, C Austin Blythe, DT Derrick Nnadi; LB Ben Niemann, LB Dorian O'Daniel, CB Mike Hughes

7. The Chiefs let walk: WR Demarcus Robinson, WR Josh Gordon, OT Mike Remmers, OT Prince Tega Wanogho, OG Kyle Long, DT Jarran Reed, DE Alex Okafor, CB DeAndre Baker, S Tyrann Mathieu, S Dan Sorensen, S Armani Watts.

8. The Chiefs sign WR Chris Godwin (Buccaneers) for 2 years, $25m ($12m guaranteed); DE Emmanuel Ogbah (Dolphins) for 2 years, $20m ($8m guaranteed); LB Josh Bynes (Ravens) for 1 year, $2m; S Marcus Maye for 1 year, $8m ($1m guranteed); S Terrell Edmunds (Steelers) for vet minimum

9. The Chiefs are picking late in the draft.

The draft:

The Chiefs trade down from their 1st rounder for an additional 2nd and 3rd.
2 (trade down). CB Kaiir Elam, Florida -- corner that specializes in zone & press man, plus has NFL bloodlines
2. DE Drake Jackson, USC -- NFL-ready bendy passrusher, needs some refinement
3. (trade down). DT Perrion Winfrey, Oklahoma -- powerful gap-shooter and stout against the run
3. S Jalen Pitre, Baylor -- super energetic sideline-to-sideline strong safety type, needs refinement
3 (Poles). OT Abraham Lucas, Washington State -- big, powerful RT who can defend the outside better than Wylie or Niang
4. WR Alec Pierce, Cincinnati -- Chiefs begin preparing for life after Hardman with this speedster
7 (Hughes). DT Myron Tagovailoa-Amosa, Notre Dame
7. LB Joshua Ross, Michigan
7 (Durant). DE Dominique Robinson, Miami (OH)

MYRON TAGOVAILOA-AMOSA

the roster:

QB: Mahomes, Buechele
RB: Edwards-Helaire, Williams, McKinnon, Gore
FB: Burton

WR: Hill, Godwin, Pringle, Hardman, Kemp, Pierce
TE: Kelce, Bell, Gray, Fortson

LT: Brown, Thuney
LG: Thuney, Allegretti
C: Humphrey, Blythe
RG: Smith, Wylie
RT: Lucas, Niang

DE: Ogbah, Jackson, Kaindoh
DT: Jones, Wharton, Tagovailoa-Amosa
DT: Winfrey, Nnadi, Saunders
DE: Ingram, Danna, Robinson

OLB: Gay, O'Daniel
ILB: Bolton, Niemann
OLB: Bynes, Ross

CB: Sneed, Ward, Elam, Fenton, Hughes, Lammons
S: Thornhill, Maye, Pitre, Anderson, Edmunds

K: Butker
P: Townsend
LS: Winchester

Couch-Potato · 01-26-2022, 08:31 AM

We'd be unstoppable with Chris Godwin.

duncan_idaho · 01-26-2022, 09:36 AM

I like it, though I think you may be underestimating what WRs get on the market.

I could see Smith-Schuster on a deal like the one you suggest, but have a hard time believing Godwin settles for that.

I like the Ogbah idea, though. A lot. Wonder if he's interested in a reunion. I like the draft a lot, too. Practically ideal. (though you're still perhaps wondering if long-term they don't slip a bit once Kelce and Hill show some of that inevitable decline).

**The Franchise** · 01-26-2022, 10:03 AM

What makes you think Godwin is signing for $25 million? Even with a torn ACL…..dude is going to get paid.

Chris Meck · 01-26-2022, 10:10 AM

Godwin's probably a no-go financially.

And honestly, in THIS offense as a #3, Juju is probably just as effective at a much lower cost.

Love the Ogbah reunion. love Maye. Not sure Bynes is a good fit.

I'd keep Wanogho, Watts, Baker, D'OD and Hughes as all are inexpensive depth and special teams players. No need to gut the depth, even if we don't like them as starting level players.

Urc Burry · 01-26-2022, 10:18 AM

Tyreeks cap hit next year is 20 mil. Just by extending him we will be able to lower that significantly. We are sitting way better cap wise then a lot of people think.

Like others mentioned I think Godwin will demand way more than that, but I’m willing to go there. We’ve been extremely fortunate with Tyreek and Kelces health. But Kelce will be 33 next year. And we can’t expect him to stay at this level forever. Godwin is the perfect fit, and by all accounts a great teammate. He’s what Veach had thought Sammy would be

kccrow · 01-26-2022, 03:31 PM

I have some major reservations about this one bud.

Terrell Edmunds, one of the better starting strong safeties in the NFL, is going to sign for vet minimum as a reserve? His OTC value for 2021 was 8.1 million. Chances are better he gets closer to the 14 per Landon Collins signed for than vet minimum.

Chris Godwin is closer to a 25 million per WR, not 2 for 25. I can't imagine he signs for less than 20 per. If he has to take less, I'd think it'll be on a 1-year "prove it" deal coming off his injury.

I can't imagine Kaiir Elam being around when we pick at 32 much less in round 2. I understand he's been dropped in the rankings a bit of late to the lower 1 range because he got knicked up this past year but he was a top-15 guy up to this point. Good CB's go high and he's a good one. No way he's there in the late 30s or 40's IMO.

Drake Jackson is interesting. Some boards have him late 1. I don't but I can see why they do. I think he might be better in a 3-4 but he's a guy I'd jump on at 64. I don't see him being there that late.

I don't see Pitre there at the end of 3 either. He's an end of 2 guy IMO. If you don't take him there, I think he's gone very early 3rd. Pitre is alot like Thornhill was coming out.\\

Unless it's purely about money, I think chances are higher KC brings back Reed than Nnadi at this point.

Things I do like...

Marcus Maye might be the right type to get at a discount on a "prove it" deal after injury. He's a good player and I think that price may be right.

I'm all about a DT in the 3rd, especially if KC has an extra one. I don't know that Winfrey is there but he'd be a solid get if he were. I do like Travis Jones quite a bit. I'm high on Pidarian Mathis too if he's around in 2.

Like I said in the other thread about OT, I wouldn't hate if a solid one dropped to grab one. I think Lucas is pretty solid as a RT prospect.

01-25-2022, 10:39 PM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4423447	Mock (1/25) Assumptions: 1. The Chiefs do well this postseason. HC Andy Reid and GM Brett Veach are retained. 2. The Chiefs franchise: OT Orlando Brown. 3. The Chiefs cut: DE Frank Clark, ILB Anthony Hitchens 4. The Chiefs extended: WR Tyreek Hill for 4 years, $80m ($52m guaranteed), WR Byron Pringle for 2 years, $6m; DE Melvin Ingram, 2 years $12 million ($4m guaranteed); CB Charvarious Ward for 3 years, $37m ($18m guaranteed). 5. The Chiefs tender: WR Marcus Kemp, TE Jody Fortson, CB Chris Lammons 6. The Chiefs re-sign to minimal deals: RB Jerick McKinnon, RB Darrel Williams, RB Derrick Gore, FB Michael Burton, TE Blake Bell, OG Andrew Wylie, C Austin Blythe, DT Derrick Nnadi; LB Ben Niemann, LB Dorian O'Daniel, CB Mike Hughes 7. The Chiefs let walk: WR Demarcus Robinson, WR Josh Gordon, OT Mike Remmers, OT Prince Tega Wanogho, OG Kyle Long, DT Jarran Reed, DE Alex Okafor, CB DeAndre Baker, S Tyrann Mathieu, S Dan Sorensen, S Armani Watts. 8. The Chiefs sign WR Chris Godwin (Buccaneers) for 2 years, $25m ($12m guaranteed); DE Emmanuel Ogbah (Dolphins) for 2 years, $20m ($8m guaranteed); LB Josh Bynes (Ravens) for 1 year, $2m; S Marcus Maye for 1 year, $8m ($1m guranteed); S Terrell Edmunds (Steelers) for vet minimum 9. The Chiefs are picking late in the draft. The draft: The Chiefs trade down from their 1st rounder for an additional 2nd and 3rd. 2 (trade down). CB Kaiir Elam, Florida -- corner that specializes in zone & press man, plus has NFL bloodlines 2. DE Drake Jackson, USC -- NFL-ready bendy passrusher, needs some refinement 3. (trade down). DT Perrion Winfrey, Oklahoma -- powerful gap-shooter and stout against the run 3. S Jalen Pitre, Baylor -- super energetic sideline-to-sideline strong safety type, needs refinement 3 (Poles). OT Abraham Lucas, Washington State -- big, powerful RT who can defend the outside better than Wylie or Niang 4. WR Alec Pierce, Cincinnati -- Chiefs begin preparing for life after Hardman with this speedster 7 (Hughes). DT Myron Tagovailoa-Amosa, Notre Dame 7. LB Joshua Ross, Michigan 7 (Durant). DE Dominique Robinson, Miami (OH) MYRON TAGOVAILOA-AMOSA the roster: QB: Mahomes, Buechele RB: Edwards-Helaire, Williams, McKinnon, Gore FB: Burton WR: Hill, Godwin, Pringle, Hardman, Kemp, Pierce TE: Kelce, Bell, Gray, Fortson LT: Brown, Thuney LG: Thuney, Allegretti C: Humphrey, Blythe RG: Smith, Wylie RT: Lucas, Niang DE: Ogbah, Jackson, Kaindoh DT: Jones, Wharton, Tagovailoa-Amosa DT: Winfrey, Nnadi, Saunders DE: Ingram, Danna, Robinson OLB: Gay, O'Daniel ILB: Bolton, Niemann OLB: Bynes, Ross CB: Sneed, Ward, Elam, Fenton, Hughes, Lammons S: Thornhill, Maye, Pitre, Anderson, Edmunds K: Butker P: Townsend LS: Winchester
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01-26-2022, 08:31 AM	#2
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01-26-2022, 09:36 AM	#3
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1800308	I like it, though I think you may be underestimating what WRs get on the market. I could see Smith-Schuster on a deal like the one you suggest, but have a hard time believing Godwin settles for that. I like the Ogbah idea, though. A lot. Wonder if he's interested in a reunion. I like the draft a lot, too. Practically ideal. (though you're still perhaps wondering if long-term they don't slip a bit once Kelce and Hill show some of that inevitable decline). __________________ "You gotta love livin', cause dying is a pain in the ass." ---- Sinatra
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01-26-2022, 10:03 AM	#4
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01-26-2022, 10:10 AM	#5
Chris Meck MVP Join Date: May 2001 Location: midtown KC Casino cash: $1984910	Godwin's probably a no-go financially. And honestly, in THIS offense as a #3, Juju is probably just as effective at a much lower cost. Love the Ogbah reunion. love Maye. Not sure Bynes is a good fit. I'd keep Wanogho, Watts, Baker, D'OD and Hughes as all are inexpensive depth and special teams players. No need to gut the depth, even if we don't like them as starting level players.
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01-26-2022, 10:18 AM	#6
Urc Burry Veteran Join Date: Jan 2011 Casino cash: $9041048	Tyreeks cap hit next year is 20 mil. Just by extending him we will be able to lower that significantly. We are sitting way better cap wise then a lot of people think. Like others mentioned I think Godwin will demand way more than that, but I’m willing to go there. We’ve been extremely fortunate with Tyreek and Kelces health. But Kelce will be 33 next year. And we can’t expect him to stay at this level forever. Godwin is the perfect fit, and by all accounts a great teammate. He’s what Veach had thought Sammy would be
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01-26-2022, 03:31 PM	#7
kccrow MVP Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $3287078	I have some major reservations about this one bud. Terrell Edmunds, one of the better starting strong safeties in the NFL, is going to sign for vet minimum as a reserve? His OTC value for 2021 was 8.1 million. Chances are better he gets closer to the 14 per Landon Collins signed for than vet minimum. Chris Godwin is closer to a 25 million per WR, not 2 for 25. I can't imagine he signs for less than 20 per. If he has to take less, I'd think it'll be on a 1-year "prove it" deal coming off his injury. I can't imagine Kaiir Elam being around when we pick at 32 much less in round 2. I understand he's been dropped in the rankings a bit of late to the lower 1 range because he got knicked up this past year but he was a top-15 guy up to this point. Good CB's go high and he's a good one. No way he's there in the late 30s or 40's IMO. Drake Jackson is interesting. Some boards have him late 1. I don't but I can see why they do. I think he might be better in a 3-4 but he's a guy I'd jump on at 64. I don't see him being there that late. I don't see Pitre there at the end of 3 either. He's an end of 2 guy IMO. If you don't take him there, I think he's gone very early 3rd. Pitre is alot like Thornhill was coming out.\\ Unless it's purely about money, I think chances are higher KC brings back Reed than Nnadi at this point. Things I do like... Marcus Maye might be the right type to get at a discount on a "prove it" deal after injury. He's a good player and I think that price may be right. I'm all about a DT in the 3rd, especially if KC has an extra one. I don't know that Winfrey is there but he'd be a solid get if he were. I do like Travis Jones quite a bit. I'm high on Pidarian Mathis too if he's around in 2. Like I said in the other thread about OT, I wouldn't hate if a solid one dropped to grab one. I think Lucas is pretty solid as a RT prospect.
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