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Old 11-19-2019, 12:12 AM  
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Official discussion thread on Andy’s late game conservative play calling
It’s a continuing thing from Philly. Why can’t he learn or change?

I and the Chief fans I was with were so pissed off at Andy being conservative again at the end of the game. 2 and 6. You get the 1st down. That’s it, game over. I would be trusting Mahomes to get 6 yards in two tries over trusting our defense.

Almost burned us again just last week. Came close to blowing a another game with conservative play calling.

Come on Andy, your a HOF coach but it’s time to rethink this late game conservative strategy. Trust in Mahomes to get it done.
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Old 11-19-2019, 12:20 AM   #2
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Only problem is OL and execution, not Andy

Mahomes overthrew Shady, Mahomes had one ball tipped, Andy called a regular-ass pass play on another snap, receiver was covered, OL gave up the sack.

You are conveniently ignoring the plays that were drawn up on those two drives that DID get first downs.

At some point you have to credit the Chargers pass rush and our own OL's inability to block forcing Andy to call short passes or hand the ball off trying to burn clock and protect the ball.
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Old 11-19-2019, 12:22 AM   #3
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It’s a continuing thing from Philly. Why can’t he learn or change?

I and the Chief fans I was with were so pissed off at Andy being conservative again at the end of the game. 2 and 6. You get the 1st down. That’s it, game over. I would be trusting Mahomes to get 6 yards in two tries over trusting our defense.

Almost burned us again just last week. Came close to blowing a another game with conservative play calling.

Come on Andy, your a HOF coach but it’s time to rethink this late game conservative strategy. Trust in Mahomes to get it done.
What would you have called differently?
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Old 11-19-2019, 12:22 AM   #4
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Only problem is OL and execution, not Andy

Mahomes overthrew Shady, Mahomes had one ball tipped, Andy called a regular-ass pass play on another snap, receiver was covered, OL gave up the sack.

You are conveniently ignoring the plays that were drawn up on those two drives that DID get first downs.

At some point you have to credit the Chargers pass rush and our own OL's inability to block forcing Andy to call short passes or hand the ball off trying to burn clock and protect the ball.
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Old 11-19-2019, 12:24 AM   #5
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Only problem is OL and execution, not Andy

Mahomes overthrew Shady, Mahomes had one ball tipped, Andy called a regular-ass pass play on another snap, receiver was covered, OL gave up the sack.

You are conveniently ignoring the plays that were drawn up on those two drives that DID get first downs.

At some point you have to credit the Chargers pass rush and our own OL's inability to block forcing Andy to call short passes or hand the ball off trying to burn clock and protect the ball.
Gotta agree with this. Pat hits either one of those passes and we are not having this conversation.

While it is disappointing that the offense failed to execute....you have to tip your hat to the defense....stopped Phyllis and company on 4 straight drives to end the game and they held the lead.
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Old 11-19-2019, 12:39 AM   #6
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It amazes me people still think a few seconds off the clock are better than TDs. If we get one first down or we get in FG range a strange disease takes over Andy Reid's mind where no pass play on first or second down can cross the line of scrimmage. NFL-think is the dream of every NFL defensive coordinator. Bill Belichick certainly doesn't suffer from this disease and has made a career off of coaches that do.
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What would you have called differently?
Andy probably has 100 plays that’s designed to get 6+ yards. Call a couple of them.
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Andy probably has 100 plays that’s designed to get 6+ yards. Call a couple of them.
He tried some of those and Pat just couldn't connect.
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Andy probably has 100 plays that’s designed to get 6+ yards. Call a couple of them.
No doubt.

Hire an extra guy to script the first x plays in the game. Andy needs to script 15 plays to call when the game is in a high leverage situation late in the game. He is brilliant. Trust the process when it matters. Don't read that GD menu; nothing good comes from it.
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Only problem is OL and execution, not Andy

Mahomes overthrew Shady, Mahomes had one ball tipped, Andy called a regular-ass pass play on another snap, receiver was covered, OL gave up the sack.

You are conveniently ignoring the plays that were drawn up on those two drives that DID get first downs.

At some point you have to credit the Chargers pass rush and our own OL's inability to block forcing Andy to call short passes or hand the ball off trying to burn clock and protect the ball.
and your ignoring years of the same pattern. 20 years of history.

It wasn’t just that one series in the opening post. His last 3 offensive series calls were conservative. We lost a game last week we had won because of conservative play calling. He promised to do a better job of coaching. We lost an exact game like this against the Chargers in Arrowhead last year. Same scenerio. Just keeps happening.

I’m only bashing this part of Andy’s coaching game. I think he’s the 2nd best coach in the NFL. I’m damn glad he’s our coach. I’ll also be forever grateful for the coaching up of Mahones too.
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He tried some of those and Pat just couldn't connect.
If swing/screen passes are "those" Alex Smith is good enough.
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Only problem is OL and execution, not Andy

Mahomes overthrew Shady, Mahomes had one ball tipped, Andy called a regular-ass pass play on another snap, receiver was covered, OL gave up the sack.

You are conveniently ignoring the plays that were drawn up on those two drives that DID get first downs.

At some point you have to credit the Chargers pass rush and our own OL's inability to block forcing Andy to call short passes or hand the ball off trying to burn clock and protect the ball.
Maybe call a play where the throw goes past the line of scrimmage, or gasp, past the 1st down marker.
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If swing/screen passes are "those" Alex Smith is good enough.
You guys are ****ing ridiculous
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It wasn’t just that one series in the opening post. His last 3 offensive series calls were conservative.
This isn't true.

Otherwise, Mahomes would not have dropped back to pass, found no one open, and run for first downs because Andy's receivers cleared out the underneath.

Get a clue.
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I’m only bashing this part of Andy’s coaching game. I think he’s the 2nd best coach in the NFL. I’m damn glad he’s our coach.
It is infuriating that he can be so brilliant at certain times and so mud headed at others. He needs a wisperer.
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