Chiefs Realistic expectations for Patrick Mahomes - Page 11

**TimBone** · 04-21-2018, 04:51 PM

I know in the hearts of every planeteer, Mahomes has already led us to multiple Super Bowls, and that this whole career thing is just a formality before his HOF induction ceremony, but what is everyone realistically looking for from him this season?

Maybe I'm just letting my battered fan syndrome take over, but I feel like we need to pump the brakes a little bit. He looked solid against Denver, sure, but he's still just a second year guy that was pretty raw coming out of college.

So, what kind of numbers would everyone be happy with? What kind of things will you all be personally looking for from him?

Lastly, if you think I'm being a pussy and need to shut up and buckle up for the Mahomes show, please hit me with your best neg rep. The funnier the better.

O.city · 04-22-2018, 05:54 PM

Honestly I think it’s more surrounding caatand coaching staff that has expectations higher for me

Holy hell what more could a qb ask for?

**RealSNR** · 04-22-2018, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower

Thats all I am really saying. I mean I just kind of cringe at the idea of setting the 'expectation' so high when not meeting an expectation is the very definition of failure.

I predict good things for Mahomes too...but to me it really isnt about htis season since by most people's expectations this is pretty much a building year and I refuse to get upset if we have a setback in terms of record or yards or whatever....

Just getting pat mahomes has raised my expectations for the future massively!

In that case, then I'm with you. **** expectations. I wasn't a Chiefs fan in 1983 (I was 3 years old). Pat Mahomes is the brave knight who slayed my 1st QB virginity dragon. He gets a hella ****ing long leash from me both this year, next year, and the year after that.

**** TimBone and his dumb thread!!!!!!

Sweet Daddy Hate · 04-22-2018, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower

Just getting pat mahomes has raised my expectations for the future massively!

Absolutely. Watching Veach fill out the rest of the roster will be interesting, but the reason for the season has been addressed, and it's nothing but skyward trajectory from here on out!

O.city · 04-22-2018, 05:58 PM

Eh, I dunno about that long

I’m a big believer in the rookie qb contract. The chiefs need Mahomes to be good quick if they’re gonna push for a SB in the easier part of the Mahomes era.
If he’s legit and you have to give him a big deal it’s gonna get a whole lot tougher

Sweet Daddy Hate · 04-22-2018, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Eh, I dunno about that long

I’m a big believer in the rookie qb contract. The chiefs need Mahomes to be good quick if they’re gonna push for a SB in the easier part of the Mahomes era.
If he’s legit and you have to give him a big deal it’s gonna get a whole lot tougher

Watching Clark issue that check is gonna' give me wood.

**Ming the Merciless** · 04-22-2018, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

He gets a hella ****ing long leash from me both this year, next year, and the year after that.

ANd thats another very valid point. I might be a bit paranoid and I know its not people like Rust Shack (actual homers) that are doing this but I feel like there is an element out there..(alexsexuals) .that are setting up some WAY too high 'expectations' and then will troll us when he 'fails' to meet these unreasonable goals.

I agree 1000000% that hes got a pretty long leash and I think that he needs work on even basics like reads, drops, mechanics, footwork...by most accounts.

So I mean if he continues to perform as he did in that final game, and improve on that ... Its all good with me..but I expect him to have some bad games. You wont see me crying 'bust' if he has a rough rookie season..for sure.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 04-22-2018, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

In that case, then I'm with you. **** expectations. I wasn't a Chiefs fan in 1983 (I was 3 years old). Pat Mahomes is the brave knight who slayed my 1st QB virginity dragon. He gets a hella ****ing long leash from me both this year, next year, and the year after that.

**** TimBone and his dumb thread!!!!!!

Is it a leash long enough to let Peebag walk circles around the truck stop?

Yes. Yes it is.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 04-22-2018, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower

ANd thats another very valid point. I might be a bit paranoid and I know its not people like Rust Shack (actual homers) that are doing this but I feel like there is an element out there..(alexsexuals) .that are setting up some WAY too high 'expectations' and then will troll us when he 'fails' to meet these unreasonable goals.

**** those clowns. All dues have been paid to the tune of 5 mediocre, pud-whacking seasons. I DARE those ****ing clowns to troll me.

O.city · 04-22-2018, 06:05 PM

He gets time for sure, but we need him to take off pretty fast

4 years of cheap qb play has to be taken advantage of

**SAUTO** · 04-22-2018, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Best QB in the division out the gate, best QB in the AFC within another year, best QB in football within another 2 years.

I feel the same

prhom · 04-22-2018, 07:18 PM

I think it’s fine to expect him to pass for more than 4000, I don’t think accumulating stats will be his issue. I think what we will want him to do better will be helping out the defense by controlling the clock better. Peyton Manning was the best I’ve ever seen at doing it, but I think it’s a key skill to have if you are going to be a top-notch QB in this league. Especially if you are playing with a middling defense. Mahomes will need to understand that sometimes a first down is more valuable than a TD. As wrong as Smith was to not take the shots downfield when he had them handed to him on a platter, he won a few games for us controlling the clock with agonizingly long drives that ended with a FG.

I think Mahomes understands that, but we shall see. As Smith has shown us, you can win a lot of games in this league without throwing for 4000 yards. Matt Stafford is a good example of how throwing for a ton of yards can mean very little in terms of winning.

I think Mahomes will get his stats, I just hope they translate into wins as well. I can’t wait to watch it either way.

Fat Elvis · 04-22-2018, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower

ANd thats another very valid point. I might be a bit paranoid and I know its not people like Rust Shack (actual homers) that are doing this but I feel like there is an element out there..(alexsexuals) .that are setting up some WAY too high 'expectations' and then will troll us when he 'fails' to meet these unreasonable goals.

I agree 1000000% that hes got a pretty long leash and I think that he needs work on even basics like reads, drops, mechanics, footwork...by most accounts.

So I mean if he continues to perform as he did in that final game, and improve on that ... Its all good with me..but I expect him to have some bad games. You wont see me crying 'bust' if he has a rough rookie season..for sure.

alexsexuals have all the ammo to troll you now because of your tepid support of Mahomes. Quit being a pussy and support Mahomes. Go out on a limb. I did.

My only fear is that Andy is what will truly hold Mahomes back. He may be a QB whisperer, but he also has a really bad habit of going full fetal position whenever he gets a lead of any type. Andy needs to channel his inner 12 year old at a punt, pass, and kick competition and learn to put his foot on the opponents neck and jump up and down.

Some of you dolts have become so gun shy that you actually fear that Mahomes will score too many points. News flash: The team that scores the most points wins, not the team that holds the ball the longest.

You want to wear out a defense? Air it out with a ton of play action pass. Teams have to respect Hunt, and yet at the same time they have to cover two legit world class track stars with hands. Good luck with that. Al Davis looks at KCs recievers and gets wood in the grave. (And don't forget, we also have one of the top TEs in the game.)

If I had my druthers, we'd kick Colquitt to the curb. **** punting when you have the offensive weapons we have.

I'm sticking to it: Mahomes 5K. Conservative playcalling is the only thing standing in the way of that achievement.

saphojunkie · 04-22-2018, 10:51 PM

I don’t care about his yards. But I will literally put money down he throws over 30 TDS. He’s gonna break the Chiefs record in his first full season.

KChiefs1 · 04-22-2018, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike

I'd be disappointed if he doesn't get 4000 yds.

My minimum expectations are 4000+ yards & 30+ TD’s.

He needs to break Lenny’s TD pass record.

Rasputin · 04-23-2018, 12:13 AM

Realistic I think he can break Len Dawson records in five years and have us Super Bowl contention throughout his career hopefully next 15 years.

04-21-2018, 04:51 PM
TimBone Mostly Ignored Join Date: Jul 2013 Casino cash: $8499985	Realistic expectations for Patrick Mahomes I know in the hearts of every planeteer, Mahomes has already led us to multiple Super Bowls, and that this whole career thing is just a formality before his HOF induction ceremony, but what is everyone realistically looking for from him this season? Maybe I'm just letting my battered fan syndrome take over, but I feel like we need to pump the brakes a little bit. He looked solid against Denver, sure, but he's still just a second year guy that was pretty raw coming out of college. So, what kind of numbers would everyone be happy with? What kind of things will you all be personally looking for from him? Lastly, if you think I'm being a pussy and need to shut up and buckle up for the Mahomes show, please hit me with your best neg rep. The funnier the better.
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04-22-2018, 05:54 PM	#151
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04-22-2018, 05:58 PM	#154
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2834064	Eh, I dunno about that long I’m a big believer in the rookie qb contract. The chiefs need Mahomes to be good quick if they’re gonna push for a SB in the easier part of the Mahomes era. If he’s legit and you have to give him a big deal it’s gonna get a whole lot tougher
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04-22-2018, 07:18 PM	#161
prhom Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Denver Casino cash: $8086013	I think it’s fine to expect him to pass for more than 4000, I don’t think accumulating stats will be his issue. I think what we will want him to do better will be helping out the defense by controlling the clock better. Peyton Manning was the best I’ve ever seen at doing it, but I think it’s a key skill to have if you are going to be a top-notch QB in this league. Especially if you are playing with a middling defense. Mahomes will need to understand that sometimes a first down is more valuable than a TD. As wrong as Smith was to not take the shots downfield when he had them handed to him on a platter, he won a few games for us controlling the clock with agonizingly long drives that ended with a FG. I think Mahomes understands that, but we shall see. As Smith has shown us, you can win a lot of games in this league without throwing for 4000 yards. Matt Stafford is a good example of how throwing for a ton of yards can mean very little in terms of winning. I think Mahomes will get his stats, I just hope they translate into wins as well. I can’t wait to watch it either way.
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saphojunkie MVP Join Date: Aug 2011 Casino cash: $4796250	I don’t care about his yards. But I will literally put money down he throws over 30 TDS. He’s gonna break the Chiefs record in his first full season.
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Rasputin Tip of the hat LIV Champs Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: ks Casino cash: $3535421	Realistic I think he can break Len Dawson records in five years and have us Super Bowl contention throughout his career hopefully next 15 years.
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