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Old 09-28-2020, 09:25 AM  
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How does Dan Quinn still have a job?
This dude and Matt Ryan are the two biggest choke artists in the NFL. 28-3 completely ruined that franchise.
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Old 09-28-2020, 10:40 AM   #46
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Nobody is saying he is, but he’s not Kirk ****ing Cousins either dude.
He's closer to Kirk Cousins than Drew Brees.
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Old 09-28-2020, 10:41 AM   #47
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Sorry man, it's the eye test. Matt Ryan is a compiler. When the game doesn't come to him, he's not capably of going and getting it.
Basically he’s a Dak Prescott.
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Old 09-28-2020, 10:41 AM   #48
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You consider borderline top 10 as being third tier?
Yea, 2nd tier (not elite) guys are like prime Big Ben. I don’t think he’s that good, but he’s just a tier below.
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Old 09-28-2020, 10:42 AM   #49
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He's closer to Kirk Cousins than Drew Brees.
Not by much. I’d say he’s somewhere in the middle of those 2. He’s significantly worse than Brees, but significantly better than Cousins.
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Old 09-28-2020, 10:42 AM   #50
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Yea, 2nd tier (not elite) guys are like prime Big Ben. I don’t think he’s that good, but he’s just a tier below.
Well ok then. I guess I would think to be third tier you would be in the 15-20 range.
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Well ok then. I guess I would think to be third tier you would be in the 15-20 range.
Well when 2nd tier is just under elite, I don’t think there are ever 10 QB’s in the league at the same time that are quite that good.
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Basically he’s a Dak Prescott.
That's actually a decent comparison.
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Well when 2nd tier is just under elite, I don’t think there are ever 10 QB’s in the league at the same time that are quite that good.
Fair enough. I do agree that the elite ones are very few and far in between. I just think the Tier 2 guys are a bigger group.
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With a SB Ryan is a lock first ballot guy, without one he's still going to get in, you realize he's less than 100 TDs and 10k yards from Marino's career marks right? If you pass those you're getting in.
Marino played in a completely different era. It's pretty useless to compare modern players to him, outside of the eye test when you watch the ball come out of their hand.
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With a SB Ryan is a lock first ballot guy, without one he's still going to get in, you realize he's less than 100 TDs and 10k yards from Marino's career marks right? If you pass those you're getting in.
So you believe Rivers is a HOF guy?
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So you believe Rivers is a HOF guy?
I think he gets in but he'll wait awhile Rivers to me is borderline, there are people that think Rivers is a HOF guy and Ryans better than him.
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Fair enough. I do agree that the elite ones are very few and far in between. I just think the Tier 2 guys are a bigger group.
There are usually 2-3 elite QB’s at any given time.

I don’t think there are 7-8 guys like Big Ben every year. More like 3-4.
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There are usually 2-3 elite QB’s at any given time.

I don’t think there are 7-8 guys like Big Ben every year. More like 3-4.
Earlier this season, I post my top 10 in 3 tiers.

4 elite guys, maybe 3. 4 "near elite" guys in that 2nd tier, and then the top 2 guys from the next tier.

Right now, Matt Ryan, I would rank firmly about 12th, maybe a bit lower. That's where he's been pretty much all of his career.
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Eli Manning is going to get in and honestly, I think he's worse than all the guys were discussing here.
Two ultra hot playoff runs mixed with his last name.
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