Chiefs Cam Newtwon, Jameis Winston, or Alex Smith? - Page 2

Couch-Potato · 03-30-2020, 02:15 PM

So I remember not too long ago we were so desperate for a QB that many of us were calling for the likes of Geno Smith, Chase Daniels, and even Tyler Bray to lead our Chiefs. So how excited would you have been if Cam or Jameis would have become available during those troubled times? Would you have preferred Cam, Jameis, or Alex?

cmh6476 · 03-30-2020, 02:48 PM

Don't forget Andy Dalton. Remember when the Pats and Chargers were our stiffest competition. Yeah, these two teams may be picking from this group or a Tyrod Taylor. Fock ya both.

ThyKingdomCome15 · 03-30-2020, 02:54 PM

Winston based on health alone.

ThaVirus · 03-30-2020, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

If ya' want 30 picks in one season.

Like Cam Newton's MVP season, that'll likely prove to be an outlier.

Hammock Parties · 03-30-2020, 03:03 PM

Why can't Cam rediscover himself in his 30s like Alex?

I can tell you I don't want him in the AFC West.

Megatron96 · 03-30-2020, 03:07 PM

It depends on when we're talking about. Right now it's highly questionable that Alex can even play.

But assuming that we're talking about all three players in their respective 'primes,' I'd go with either Cam or Alex in that order. Winston is out because he's always had a turnover issue, not just last year. Plus Winston isn't a good team player or leader. So that's a hard pass.

Cam is more athletic and has a better arm than Alex, while Alex tended to be a better decision-maker overall than Cam. But Cam at his best when he played with Norv Turner as his OC and mostly only had 1 or 2 reads, was the best QB of the three, under the parameters given above. Plus, Cam would pull the trigger down field, whereas Alex was always hesitant throwing down the sidelines more than 15 yards. That alone could win you a few playoff games.

But I've never been a Cam Newton fan, so taking him under any circumstances would be a tough pill to swallow for me as a virtual GM.

Pasta Little Brioni · 03-30-2020, 03:09 PM

Virus loves to pimp marginal players on other teams

Couch-Potato · 03-30-2020, 03:23 PM

I was an Alex supporter but would have loved some prime Cam in KC.

KurtCobain · 03-30-2020, 04:02 PM

OP, who the **** is Chase Daniels?

**Easy 6** · 03-30-2020, 04:12 PM

Rivera is letting Alex come to camp as a courtesy to an old pro, but he is DUN... it was a catastrophic injury that will steal his biggest asset

I can’t believe Smitty is stupid enough to even try

Deberg_1990 · 03-30-2020, 04:15 PM

Cam Newton if healthy and its not even close.

Winston is basically another FitzPatrick. Too inconsistent to ever win anything.

Alex is Alex.

DJJasonp · 03-30-2020, 04:25 PM

Winston has all the skills, and can make all the throws.

He would just need a Reid-like lobotomy, and he could be an all-pro for several years.

Honestly, of those three, he's the last guy I want going to the chargers.

Do I think the chargers coaching staff are that good to get more turnover-free play from him? Probably not.

Cam is done. And he's been 'done' for several years now (and who would want a leader on your team that doesnt go after a fumble in the biggest game of his career?)

And yes, Alex is Alex (and for the love of god, retire while you can still breathe oxygen)

lawrenceRaider · 03-30-2020, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Setsuna

I believe they are doing it as a last ditch effort to make Mitch get over the hump. He's got the skill set. Now his job is relatively in danger now. He better reach inside himself and turn the corner. If they signed Cam Mitch would be abandoned by that organization. Foles is a motivation tool.

Accuracy and ability to read defenses are skills Mitch does not have.

Bears are wasting a top tier D on a less than replacement level QB.

ThaVirus · 03-30-2020, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

Virus loves to pimp marginal players on other teams

What about my posts makes it seem like I'm pimping them? Dude asked a question and I answered it.

I think the bigger issue here is that guys like staylor and yourself are insecure.

Pasta Little Brioni · 03-30-2020, 04:55 PM

it's years worth of posts. Own it...

MahomesMagic · 03-30-2020, 05:39 PM

Most QB's depend on the system and scheme. But looking at these options I am surprised Andy Dalton is not listed here. And he would fit the Patriots really well if he comes cheap.

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Megatron96 Suupraa Geniuuusss Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Phoenix, AZ Casino cash: $2040400	It depends on when we're talking about. Right now it's highly questionable that Alex can even play. But assuming that we're talking about all three players in their respective 'primes,' I'd go with either Cam or Alex in that order. Winston is out because he's always had a turnover issue, not just last year. Plus Winston isn't a good team player or leader. So that's a hard pass. Cam is more athletic and has a better arm than Alex, while Alex tended to be a better decision-maker overall than Cam. But Cam at his best when he played with Norv Turner as his OC and mostly only had 1 or 2 reads, was the best QB of the three, under the parameters given above. Plus, Cam would pull the trigger down field, whereas Alex was always hesitant throwing down the sidelines more than 15 yards. That alone could win you a few playoff games. But I've never been a Cam Newton fan, so taking him under any circumstances would be a tough pill to swallow for me as a virtual GM.
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DJJasonp My work speaks for itself!!! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: So Cal Casino cash: $2065200	Winston has all the skills, and can make all the throws. He would just need a Reid-like lobotomy, and he could be an all-pro for several years. Honestly, of those three, he's the last guy I want going to the chargers. Do I think the chargers coaching staff are that good to get more turnover-free play from him? Probably not. Cam is done. And he's been 'done' for several years now (and who would want a leader on your team that doesnt go after a fumble in the biggest game of his career?) And yes, Alex is Alex (and for the love of god, retire while you can still breathe oxygen) __________________ Its easier to fool a man, than to convince a man he's been fooled.
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