Mid to late RBs targets - Page 2

kcbubb · 06:10 PM

I’ve got one late round back that I’m intrigued with so far, Tiyon Evans. I’d love to get him in the 7th. He’s 5’9” and 225 lbs and can fly. He needs to get a little momentum to get going but he’s got a crazy 2nd gear for his size. He’s built solid, shredded with a thick lower body. He’s more of a one cut runner but he can push the pile and lower his shoulder for contact. He transferred from TN and played for Louisville.

I thought this was interesting. Tiyon had one of the worst 10 yard splits at 1.61. Jahmyr Gibbs and Bijan Robinson both had splits of 1.52 but his time from 10-40 was really good for that weight and size. Here’s a comparison for times from 10-40 and their 40 second and mph last.

Gibbs 2.84 4.36 22.8
Tiyon 2.91 4.52 21?
Bijan 2.94 4.46 21.6

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mf6uc892p7Y

#CFB's Top 5 Fastest Ball Carriers from Week 10

4️⃣ UL RB Tiyon Evans (@darealballer_15) 21.0 mph@LouisvilleFB | #GoCards pic.twitter.com/BJOIcUOtl3
— Reel Analytics (@RAanalytics) November 8, 2022

TIYON EVANS
COLLEGE Louisville

HEIGHT 5’ 9 1/2’’
WEIGHT 225 lbs
ARM 30 3/8’’
HAND 8 1/2’’

Combine Results
40-Yard Dash 4.52 Seconds
10-Yard Split 1.61 Seconds
Vertical Jump 30.5’’

2022

I like the bigger backs but these guys have some burst.

Dameon Pierce in the 4th

COLLEGE Florida

HEIGHT 5' 10"
WEIGHT 218 lbs
ARMS 30 3/4"

HANDS 9 3/8"

40 Yard Dash 4.59
Bench Press 21
Vertical Jump 34.5
Broad Jump119

Pierce play the game like a coiled spring ready to explode on each snap. He's an urgent runner with twitchy downfield burst, tackle-breaking leg drive and outstanding balance through contact. He reads and reacts to block development quickly and creates additional yardage with both power and subtle shiftiness. Pierce was highly productive (16 total touchdowns) in 2021 despite an embarrassingly low usage rate by the coaching staff. He has plenty of tread left on the tires and fits into any run-blocking scheme as a quality future starter or member of a RB tandem.

https://youtu.be/r18YtdttP2c

Brian Robinson in the 5th if we acquire one

COLLEGE Alabama

HEIGHT 6' 2"
WEIGHT 225 lbs
ARMS 31 7/8"
HANDS 9 3/4"

40 Yard Dash 4.53
Vertical Jump 30
Broad Jump 119

Robinson is an absolute physical unit with good feet and power to add yards after contact, but his running style is predictable and somewhat indecisive between the tackles. Building and maintaining momentum doesn't always come easily. He's more fight than flight, but delays in processing and a lack of second-level creativity turn him into more of a road-grader than he needs to be. He is a linear runner who is likely to be utilized as a complementary bulldozer to help wear down defenses, but Robinson might have more potential from sideline to sideline than he receives credit for.

https://youtu.be/iuHLDYw9WaY

Keaontay Ingram 6th or 7th

COLLEGE USC transfer from TX

HEIGHT 6' 0"
WEIGHT 221 lbs
ARMS 31 1/2"
HANDS 9"

40 Yard Dash 4.53
Vertical Jump 34.5
Broad Jump122

* Has the feet and feel running between the tackles and in the open field. He has very good vision and patience to pick through defenses.
* Doesn't possess elite breakaway speed, but is fast enough to gain yardage in chunks when he finds a seam.
* Difficult to bring down one-on-one in space, regularly sidesteps would-be tacklers and uses offhand to use oncoming defenders' momentum against them without slowing down significantly.
* Shows a surprising burst to beat linebackers to the edge. Can plant his foot in the ground and explode, showing better straight-line speed than expected.
* Demonstrated the ability to track the ball over his shoulder. Good flexibility and balance to adjust to the poorly thrown pass. Good vision and patience for screens.
* Possesses quick feet and straight-line speed but doesn't have the elite burst to be a constant big-play threat. Improving patience as a runner, following pulling guards and makes good decisions on his cut.
* Quick feet with good vision to pick through defenses. He has solid hands and body control and is a reliable receiver.
* Has good vision to find the hole and get North-South. Gets good initial push and always seems to be falling forward for a positive gain. A hard runner with a workhorse-type back mentality.

https://youtu.be/CCBVBnUCL2Q

Isaih Pacheco 6th or 7th

Rutgers

HEIGHT 5' 10"
WEIGHT 216 lbs
ARMS 30 1/2"
HANDS 9 1/4"

40 Yard Dash 4.37
Vertical Jump 33
Broad Jump118

Hard-charging, high-energy runner with three-down size and potential to compete for a roster spot as a late-round selection. Pacheco plays the game like a race car with no brakes. His feet never stop moving and his furious tempo creates opportunities but also limits his ability to set up defenders and force missed tackles. He processes the front fairly quickly and has the agility to re-adjust his running lanes to create something out of nothing, but he also has a tendency to bounce runs wide too frequently. Pacheco plays the game with an NFL demeanor and could give himself an even better chance of becoming an RB2/3 if he can step up his pass protection and third down value.

https://youtu.be/n1M6dhrTJd8

KEVIN HARRIS 6th or 7th
SOUTH CAROLINA
RB

HEIGHT 5' 10"
WEIGHT 221 lbs
ARMS 31 1/4"
HANDS 9 1/4"

Bench Press21
Vertical Jump38.5
Broad Jump126

Analysis

By Lance Zierlein
NFL Analyst
NFL Comparison
Carlos Hyde
Overview
Big, bruising runner with good vision and the self-awareness to understand that power running is what will butter his bread. His 2021 productivity fell off from 2020, due in part to health issues, shared carries and average South Carolina run blocking. He creates for himself with contact and tackle-breaking talent, but typically drops and finishes against an open-field tackler rather than avoiding him. He's a chain mover with excellent ball security as a battering ram inside. He will be limited as an outside runner and needs to come off the field on passing downs. Harris has talent and his impressive 2020 was no mirage. He's a good Day 3 option for teams looking to upgrade their power.

https://youtu.be/4JHFK3byucE

Couch-Potato · 03-15-2022, 03:24 PM

Jerrion Ealy

https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/...aly-RB-OleMiss

kccrow · 03-15-2022, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise

Pierre Strong Jr is my late round guy.

On board. If he's there at that 4th round pick, I'd have a ~~really hard~~ impossible time saying no. Reminds me so much of Jamaal with his ability to make those subtle moves when he reaches the linebackers and then turn it up N/S and shred teams with that breakaway speed.

I can't fathom him lasting anywhere near long enough to be in play in the 7th though.

**Bowser** · 03-15-2022, 06:50 PM

I demand everyone gets on board with my Hassan Haskins dream.

GloucesterChief · 03-15-2022, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

I demand everyone gets on board with my Hassan Haskins dream.

Only if Andy and Pat run the ball against a light box.

kcbubb · 03-16-2022, 10:37 AM

What am I missing? He doesn’t look fast enough for me? I’d like to see more acceleration. He is a big back though. He makes a nice hurdle at 1:32 but right when gets out in the open, not much burst there. And he gets caught by two big guys after the hurdle?

https://youtu.be/DYzUJfy5OSc

htismaqe · 03-16-2022, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb

What am I missing? He doesn’t look fast enough for me? I’d like to see more acceleration. He is a big back though. He makes a nice hurdle at 1:32 but right when gets out in the open, not much burst there. And he gets caught by two big guys after the hurdle?

https://youtu.be/DYzUJfy5OSc

Not a great highlight reel to be honest. Too many 4-yard TD runs that mostly show his offensive line blowing people off the line...

CatfishBob2 · 03-16-2022, 12:51 PM

His tape is nowhere near as sexy as Ingrams tape and no one is talking about him

https://youtu.be/CCBVBnUCL2Q

As of right now my favorite late rd RBs are Chandler and Ingram

kcbubb · 04-24-2022, 08:37 PM

I didn’t know kevin Harris was this fast. His testing shows his explosiveness with his 38” vertical and 126” broad. He also ran almost 22 mph in pads. Pretty impressive with his size and build at 5’10” and 221 lbs. I like Harris a lot. He’s a bruiser and chain mover. He’d be fun to watch with our oline.

Harris hit 21.84 mph on his long run against the Commodores, according to the Catapult GPS tracker…

https://theathletic.com/2136769/2020...-a-stud/?amp=1

**SAGA45** · 11-17-2022, 06:30 PM

All of the backs in the OP except for Harris are either starting or are the primary backup (Ingram in AZ) now. Good stuff!

kcbubb · 03-24-2023, 06:09 PM

This draft doesn’t have the rb depth that last years had. I’ll keep looking for late round gems but Tiyon is intriguing.

kccrow · 03-24-2023, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb

This draft doesn’t have the rb depth that last years had. I’ll keep looking for late round gems but Tiyon is intriguing.

I'd rather draft RBs from this year's class than last year's class, however you want to interpret that is up to you.

Couch-Potato · 03-24-2023, 07:32 PM

Unpopular opinion, but B. Robinson would be the most exciting possible pick in the draft. Not a more polarizing and potentially impactful pick in the draft. Fans would lose their shit! Love it or hate it, the crowd would go wild.

kccrow · 03-24-2023, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

Unpopular opinion, but B. Robinson would be the most exciting possible pick in the draft. Not a more polarizing and potentially impactful pick in the draft. Fans would lose their shit! Love it or hate it, the crowd would go wild.

I hope to **** Veach takes Gibbs in Round 1 just so I can laugh at the horrendous takes about his skills. If Reid can turn Tyreek into an All-Pro WR, he can certainly take a more shifty player with nearly as impressive speed and that caught the ball far more than Tyreek in college and turn him into a great player.

All the moping around here about trading Tyreek last year and then we're presented with glorious options to reincarnate that skill set here and nobody wants shit to do with it. It's fascinatingly stupid.

kcbubb · 03-24-2023, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow

I'd rather draft RBs from this year's class than last year's class, however you want to interpret that is up to you.

Who do you like? There doesn’t seem to be as many late round guys like pacheco, Pierce and Brian Robinson that can be a starter late in the draft.

kcbubb · 03-24-2023, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

I hope to **** Veach takes Gibbs in Round 1 just so I can laugh at the horrendous takes about his skills. If Reid can turn Tyreek into an All-Pro WR, he can certainly take a more shifty player with nearly as impressive speed and that caught the ball far more than Tyreek in college and turn him into a great player.

All the moping around here about trading Tyreek last year and then we're presented with glorious options to reincarnate that skill set here and nobody wants shit to do with it. It's fascinatingly stupid.

I absolutely love Gibbs. He will probably be a late 1 or early 2 and I don’t see us spending that much capital on a rb.

03-06-2022, 04:10 PM
kcbubb Veteran Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $6136719	My mid to late RBs targets I’ve got one late round back that I’m intrigued with so far, Tiyon Evans. I’d love to get him in the 7th. He’s 5’9” and 225 lbs and can fly. He needs to get a little momentum to get going but he’s got a crazy 2nd gear for his size. He’s built solid, shredded with a thick lower body. He’s more of a one cut runner but he can push the pile and lower his shoulder for contact. He transferred from TN and played for Louisville. I thought this was interesting. Tiyon had one of the worst 10 yard splits at 1.61. Jahmyr Gibbs and Bijan Robinson both had splits of 1.52 but his time from 10-40 was really good for that weight and size. Here’s a comparison for times from 10-40 and their 40 second and mph last. Gibbs 2.84 4.36 22.8 Tiyon 2.91 4.52 21? Bijan 2.94 4.46 21.6 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mf6uc892p7Y #CFB's Top 5 Fastest Ball Carriers from Week 10 4️⃣ UL RB Tiyon Evans (@darealballer_15) 21.0 mph@LouisvilleFB \| #GoCards pic.twitter.com/BJOIcUOtl3 — Reel Analytics (@RAanalytics) November 8, 2022 TIYON EVANS COLLEGE Louisville HEIGHT 5’ 9 1/2’’ WEIGHT 225 lbs ARM 30 3/8’’ HAND 8 1/2’’ Combine Results 40-Yard Dash 4.52 Seconds 10-Yard Split 1.61 Seconds Vertical Jump 30.5’’ 2022 I like the bigger backs but these guys have some burst. Dameon Pierce in the 4th COLLEGE Florida HEIGHT 5' 10" WEIGHT 218 lbs ARMS 30 3/4" HANDS 9 3/8" 40 Yard Dash 4.59 Bench Press 21 Vertical Jump 34.5 Broad Jump119 Pierce play the game like a coiled spring ready to explode on each snap. He's an urgent runner with twitchy downfield burst, tackle-breaking leg drive and outstanding balance through contact. He reads and reacts to block development quickly and creates additional yardage with both power and subtle shiftiness. Pierce was highly productive (16 total touchdowns) in 2021 despite an embarrassingly low usage rate by the coaching staff. He has plenty of tread left on the tires and fits into any run-blocking scheme as a quality future starter or member of a RB tandem. https://youtu.be/r18YtdttP2c Brian Robinson in the 5th if we acquire one COLLEGE Alabama HEIGHT 6' 2" WEIGHT 225 lbs ARMS 31 7/8" HANDS 9 3/4" 40 Yard Dash 4.53 Vertical Jump 30 Broad Jump 119 Robinson is an absolute physical unit with good feet and power to add yards after contact, but his running style is predictable and somewhat indecisive between the tackles. Building and maintaining momentum doesn't always come easily. He's more fight than flight, but delays in processing and a lack of second-level creativity turn him into more of a road-grader than he needs to be. He is a linear runner who is likely to be utilized as a complementary bulldozer to help wear down defenses, but Robinson might have more potential from sideline to sideline than he receives credit for. https://youtu.be/iuHLDYw9WaY Keaontay Ingram 6th or 7th COLLEGE USC transfer from TX HEIGHT 6' 0" WEIGHT 221 lbs ARMS 31 1/2" HANDS 9" 40 Yard Dash 4.53 Vertical Jump 34.5 Broad Jump122 * Has the feet and feel running between the tackles and in the open field. He has very good vision and patience to pick through defenses. * Doesn't possess elite breakaway speed, but is fast enough to gain yardage in chunks when he finds a seam. * Difficult to bring down one-on-one in space, regularly sidesteps would-be tacklers and uses offhand to use oncoming defenders' momentum against them without slowing down significantly. * Shows a surprising burst to beat linebackers to the edge. Can plant his foot in the ground and explode, showing better straight-line speed than expected. * Demonstrated the ability to track the ball over his shoulder. Good flexibility and balance to adjust to the poorly thrown pass. Good vision and patience for screens. * Possesses quick feet and straight-line speed but doesn't have the elite burst to be a constant big-play threat. Improving patience as a runner, following pulling guards and makes good decisions on his cut. * Quick feet with good vision to pick through defenses. He has solid hands and body control and is a reliable receiver. * Has good vision to find the hole and get North-South. Gets good initial push and always seems to be falling forward for a positive gain. A hard runner with a workhorse-type back mentality. https://youtu.be/CCBVBnUCL2Q Isaih Pacheco 6th or 7th Rutgers HEIGHT 5' 10" WEIGHT 216 lbs ARMS 30 1/2" HANDS 9 1/4" 40 Yard Dash 4.37 Vertical Jump 33 Broad Jump118 Hard-charging, high-energy runner with three-down size and potential to compete for a roster spot as a late-round selection. Pacheco plays the game like a race car with no brakes. His feet never stop moving and his furious tempo creates opportunities but also limits his ability to set up defenders and force missed tackles. He processes the front fairly quickly and has the agility to re-adjust his running lanes to create something out of nothing, but he also has a tendency to bounce runs wide too frequently. Pacheco plays the game with an NFL demeanor and could give himself an even better chance of becoming an RB2/3 if he can step up his pass protection and third down value. https://youtu.be/n1M6dhrTJd8 KEVIN HARRIS 6th or 7th SOUTH CAROLINA RB HEIGHT 5' 10" WEIGHT 221 lbs ARMS 31 1/4" HANDS 9 1/4" Bench Press21 Vertical Jump38.5 Broad Jump126 Analysis By Lance Zierlein NFL Analyst NFL Comparison Carlos Hyde Overview Big, bruising runner with good vision and the self-awareness to understand that power running is what will butter his bread. His 2021 productivity fell off from 2020, due in part to health issues, shared carries and average South Carolina run blocking. He creates for himself with contact and tackle-breaking talent, but typically drops and finishes against an open-field tackler rather than avoiding him. He's a chain mover with excellent ball security as a battering ram inside. He will be limited as an outside runner and needs to come off the field on passing downs. Harris has talent and his impressive 2020 was no mirage. He's a good Day 3 option for teams looking to upgrade their power. https://youtu.be/4JHFK3byucE Attached Thumbnails Last edited by kcbubb; 03-24-2023 at 06:10 PM..
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kcbubb Veteran Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $6136719	What am I missing? He doesn’t look fast enough for me? I’d like to see more acceleration. He is a big back though. He makes a nice hurdle at 1:32 but right when gets out in the open, not much burst there. And he gets caught by two big guys after the hurdle? https://youtu.be/DYzUJfy5OSc
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CatfishBob2 Starter Join Date: Jan 2018 Casino cash: $2970400	His tape is nowhere near as sexy as Ingrams tape and no one is talking about him https://youtu.be/CCBVBnUCL2Q As of right now my favorite late rd RBs are Chandler and Ingram
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kcbubb Veteran Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $6136719	I didn’t know kevin Harris was this fast. His testing shows his explosiveness with his 38” vertical and 126” broad. He also ran almost 22 mph in pads. Pretty impressive with his size and build at 5’10” and 221 lbs. I like Harris a lot. He’s a bruiser and chain mover. He’d be fun to watch with our oline. Harris hit 21.84 mph on his long run against the Commodores, according to the Catapult GPS tracker… https://theathletic.com/2136769/2020...-a-stud/?amp=1
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kcbubb Veteran Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $6136719	This draft doesn’t have the rb depth that last years had. I’ll keep looking for late round gems but Tiyon is intriguing.
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Couch-Potato MVP Join Date: Jan 2015 Casino cash: $3333065	Unpopular opinion, but B. Robinson would be the most exciting possible pick in the draft. Not a more polarizing and potentially impactful pick in the draft. Fans would lose their shit! Love it or hate it, the crowd would go wild.
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