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Old 02-20-2020, 03:09 PM  
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Old 02-20-2020, 09:44 PM   #136
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If this gets voted down there will be a prolonged lockout.
Lol you're stuck on there being a hold out. If there is a holdout im blaming you for bad juju.
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Old 02-20-2020, 09:48 PM   #137
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Maybe I’m naive, I know the owners have (much) more money of course.

But shouldn’t the players have the leverage here? Fans watch chiefs games to see Patrick Mahomes, not Clark Hunt.

The Chiefs will go on without Clark. They’ll seriously struggle without Patrick.

Advantage players, no?
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Old 02-20-2020, 09:49 PM   #138
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What kind of negotiations would this be if they just took 1st offer. Also there was no way in hell these guys were adding an extra game just to make at most $250,000. Why the hell would they agree to making the owners a shit ton more money and the players take less than usual. Lots of you acting like the cap on paycheck won't effect many people, but there are lots of guys that make over $4 mil/year and make more than $250k a game.
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Old 02-20-2020, 09:51 PM   #139
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Maybe I’m naive, I know the owners have (much) more money of course.

But shouldn’t the players have the leverage here? Fans watch chiefs games to see Patrick Mahomes, not Clark Hunt.

The Chiefs will go on without Clark. They’ll seriously struggle without Patrick.

Advantage players, no?
Well the owners have billions and can afford a work stoppage. Did the players listen to to the NFLPA and save money so they could survive a long term lock out? Owners have the advantage unfortunately.
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Old 02-20-2020, 10:16 PM   #140
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Maybe I’m naive, I know the owners have (much) more money of course.

But shouldn’t the players have the leverage here? Fans watch chiefs games to see Patrick Mahomes, not Clark Hunt.

The Chiefs will go on without Clark. They’ll seriously struggle without Patrick.

Advantage players, no?
You're thinking about it wrong, it's just like any business. Does the CEO have more leverage then the workers? Without the owners there wouldn't be a team to play for. They hold all the leverage unfortunately.
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Old 02-20-2020, 10:24 PM   #141
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What kind of negotiations would this be if they just took 1st offer. Also there was no way in hell these guys were adding an extra game just to make at most $250,000. Why the hell would they agree to making the owners a shit ton more money and the players take less than usual. Lots of you acting like the cap on paycheck won't effect many people, but there are lots of guys that make over $4 mil/year and make more than $250k a game.
It wouldn’t start for several years. Most contracts would be up by then
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Old 02-20-2020, 10:26 PM   #142
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Players will eventually agree no matter what.
Jocks are a dime a dozen. They like their 6 and 7 digit paydays. They can't beat billionaires no matter how hard they try.
Yeah the aaf and xfl were/are loaded with nfl talent
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Yeah the aaf and xfl were/are loaded with nfl talent
It is more on the lines that the players have no other options than the NFL to make their money. The owners have all the leverage.
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Old 02-20-2020, 10:33 PM   #144
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What kind of negotiations would this be if they just took 1st offer. Also there was no way in hell these guys were adding an extra game just to make at most $250,000. Why the hell would they agree to making the owners a shit ton more money and the players take less than usual. Lots of you acting like the cap on paycheck won't effect many people, but there are lots of guys that make over $4 mil/year and make more than $250k a game.
365 of them on Spotrac are higher than $4M salary ($250k per game).
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365 of them on Spotrac are higher than $4M salary ($250k per game).
How many are in 2-3 years right now?
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Without the owners there wouldn't be a team to play for. They hold all the leverage unfortunately.
If every roster spot on the Kansas City Chiefs was filled with XFL & CFL players, and college players who otherwise would never make it in professional football, fans would still fill Arrowhead because it's about the name on the front of the jerseys, and not the players wearing the jerseys?

What is an NFL team worth without NFL caliber players? NOTHING is how much.


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Lol you're stuck on there being a hold out. If there is a holdout im blaming you for bad juju.
Just going on what I watched Chris Simms say about it, basically he said when you negotiate to this point where you offer a deal, if that deal is turned down the owners are going to think that is bad faith and get pissed off.
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If every roster spot on the Kansas City Chiefs was filled with XFL & CFL players, and college players who otherwise would never make it in professional football, fans would still fill Arrowhead because it's about the name on the front of the jerseys, and not the players wearing the jerseys?

What is an NFL team worth without NFL caliber players? NOTHING is how much.


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They would be paying those players considerably less. The owners still win.

the ONLY option the players have to make the $ they currently make and wish to make is with the NFL. The owners have all the leverage.
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