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Hurricane Dorian bears down, Trump goes golfing



Trying to imagine what Fox News would look like if Obama had gone golfing in the lead up to Hurricane Sandy
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Old 09-03-2019, 08:41 AM   #76
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Horse shit, that it's one-sided.

The rise in criticism of the president's leisure time has coincided with the rise of social media and the rise in the left wanting to federal government to be their everything, from father to mother to the hug at night to the rousing halftime speech during the big game.

And golf has been a constant focal point on both sides since the turn of the century, particularly since one clip in a movie.



And Obama, if anything, received LESS criticism for golfing than W, who also got constant bellyaching for working his ranch in Crawford.


I swear to God, the perspective of the lot of you is impaired. If anyone ever said the slightest thing snarky about Obama, you took it personally and pretended everyone on earth was super cereal about it, and you bitch about every slight to this day. Yet, you are actually incessant, diligent to the point of a vocation even, waking up every morning yearning and searching for something to bitch about, and that's supposed to be viewed as normal, . . . because it's different now, . . . because you're really upset.
Ok, let's start with something simple. Trump constantly bitched about President Obama, his predecessor, playing golf, and promised again and again he would never be like that.

Please produce evidence President Obama doing the same.
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Old 09-03-2019, 08:48 AM   #77
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Ok, let's start with something simple. Trump constantly bitched about President Obama, his predecessor, playing golf, and promised again and again he would never be like that.

Please produce evidence President Obama doing the same.
That's not what you were arguing.
As for me, check the receipts. Didn't care when W golfed. Didn't care when W cleared brush. Didn't care when Obama golfed. Didn't care when Trump complained about golf. Don't care when Trump golfs.

As for a comparison of Trump's remarks to Obama's [across the board, not just about golfing], that's a matter of style not a difference of quality. Obama's style was to be the avatar, an empty vessel upon which people could imprint their aspirations. He left the dirty work of negative campaigning to his minions and the compliant media, which not only promulgated his campaign but even smoothed over or ignored his occasional ill-temperateness. Trump speaks for himself.

Some like to be mollified by the fiction that the president is above the fray and that there is a disconnect between him and the nasty campaigns engaged on his behalf. Some hate the insulation and water-carrying performed by media toadies necessary to craft this fiction.

And some like to be refreshed by every word coming straight from the horse's mouth, while some find such bluntness unpresidential.

Different strokes.
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Old 09-03-2019, 08:52 AM   #78
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Ok, let's start with something simple. Trump constantly bitched about President Obama, his predecessor, playing golf, and promised again and again he would never be like that.

Please produce evidence President Obama doing the same.
Data or Facts? From babble lee? After he's gotten so worked up and heated over this subject he had to resort to he usual straw man hyper bole (that he unaware uses while whining others do it) of "the left wanting to federal government to be their everything, from father to mother to the hug at night to the rousing halftime speech during the big game."?

We both know his next move is something like "Your just a troll" and he'll run away.

He'd rather whine and bitch than intellectually address the complete 180 conservatives did after Obama left.





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Old 09-03-2019, 08:57 AM   #79
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Has anyone tabulated the amount of time spent golfing between these two?

If Obama played more I can certainly see him spending time on the course when Michelle's waiting at home vs. Trump spending time on the course with a damn hot first lady available.
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Old 09-03-2019, 08:58 AM   #80
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That's not what you were arguing.
As for me, check the receipts. Didn't care when W golfed. Didn't care when W cleared brush. Didn't care when Obama golfed. Didn't care when Trump complained about golf. Don't care when Trump golfs.
Called it.

The great thing about comment like these, where a dishonest incel tries to claim non-partisanship over this topic is how easy it is to disprove. If this were true, it should be easy finding post from Babblee Lee were he also throws a tempter tantrum about people noticing Obama played golf.

Lets go back and look for those comments from babble lee. Here is a good thread:

World burns, Hill slams Obama, Obama teed off
https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/show...ma+Golf&page=6

Nope. It seems that only when people criticize Trump for doing exactly what he said he wasn't gong to do, does babble lee play his incel white knight game.
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Old 09-03-2019, 09:05 AM   #81
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A lot of business gets done when a group of important people golf together.

Obama, Bush, and Trump are no different.
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Old 09-03-2019, 09:05 AM   #82
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Tell that to Fox News when President Obama was in office!



Tell that to Fox News when President Obama was in office!




With an incompetent clown like trump I would agree. But in generally I want the country's leader in the room when we're facing down a cat 5 hurricane. Effective response requires massive and effective coordination across federal agencies, between state and federal, I'd like to have a leader who steps up. That's very different from him meddling in like, some minor FEMA decision about where to send the most blankets.



If you've had a real job you know you're way less effective on the phone than in the room



Good lord you're a stupid ****
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Old 09-03-2019, 09:09 AM   #83
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Called it.

The great thing about comment like these, where a dishonest incel tries to claim non-partisanship over this topic is how easy it is to disprove. If this were true, it should be easy finding post from Babblee Lee were he also throws a tempter tantrum about people noticing Obama played golf.

Lets go back and look for those comments from babble lee. Here is a good thread:

World burns, Hill slams Obama, Obama teed off
https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/show...ma+Golf&page=6

Nope. It seems that only when people criticize Trump for doing exactly what he said he wasn't gong to do, does babble lee play his incel white knight game.
You didn't post in it either, hence the same applies to you. Hell, most of it is just Cosmo bitching about Bush playing golf.

Jesus christ, this is why this post makes me positive it's been years since you've had sex. You only accuse people of that which you are guilty, therefore you must BE an incel.

Which would explain why you're such a hostile angry little shit.
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Called it.

The great thing about comment like these, where a dishonest incel tries to claim non-partisanship over this topic is how easy it is to disprove. If this were true, it should be easy finding post from Babblee Lee were he also throws a tempter tantrum about people noticing Obama played golf.

Lets go back and look for those comments from babble lee. Here is a good thread:

World burns, Hill slams Obama, Obama teed off
https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/show...ma+Golf&page=6

Nope. It seems that only when people criticize Trump for doing exactly what he said he wasn't gong to do, does babble lee play his incel white knight game.
Meh. It's fair to call out people like HCF because they bitched when Obama golfed but to call out baby Lee because he didn't go into those threads to say it's a stupid complaint is reaching IMO. It's not like you're in that thread either so what does that say?
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Meh. It's fair to call out people like HCF because they bitched when Obama golfed but to call out baby Lee because he didn't go into those threads to say it's a stupid complaint is reaching IMO. It's not like you're in that thread either so what does that say?
No, he caught me. I was dishonest when I said I didn't care, proven by me not caring.

And of course, there is absolutely no difference between me correcting rodeo on his nonsense amplification of the issue with the argument that 'everyone screamed bloody murder about Obama golfing, and no one cares at all when other presidents do it,' and what I was 'actually' doing, which is clearly 'throwing a temper tantrum' because people noticed that Trump played golf.
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Has anyone tabulated the amount of time spent golfing between these two?

If Obama played more I can certainly see him spending time on the course when Michelle's waiting at home vs. Trump spending time on the course with a damn hot first lady available.


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Interestingly and responsive to rodeo's retarded interrogatory about whether Obama EVER bitched about his predecessor's golfing, is the clip in that thread though.



As I characterized, tiptoes around the issue, intones a certain standard of conduct, stays above the fray. And his supplicants say with reverence beforehand 'so eloquent, and so dedicated. Not like that lazy bum we have now' and afterwards 'hey! he never specifically promised NOT to GOLF a lot!!'

And FTR, I bring this up NOT because I'm 'throwing a temper tantrum' because Obama lied and got away with it. I bring it up because rodeo asked a direct question to which this is responsive.
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Not shocking a lifelong yuppie is a heavy golfer.

What I always find bizarre is that we don't track a president's recreational time. We track specifically their GOLFING time.

Why? What the **** is so bad about playing golf for recreation?

I mean I don't do it, but i don't get the national obsession with presidential golfing preference. I never have.
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Not shocking a lifelong yuppie is a heavy golfer.

What I always find bizarre is that we don't track a president's recreational time. We track specifically their GOLFING time.

Why? What the **** is so bad about playing golf for recreation?

I mean I don't do it, but i don't get the national obsession with presidential golfing preference. I never have.
Well...and he does own his own golf course.
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You didn't post in it either, hence the same applies to you. Hell, most of it is just Cosmo bitching about Bush playing golf.

Jesus christ, this is why this post makes me positive it's been years since you've had sex. You only accuse people of that which you are guilty, therefore you must BE an incel.

Which would explain why you're such a hostile angry little shit.
Thanks for another example of how shallow your typical thinking is.

You goddamn dumbass thinks its the "didn't post" part that is the major qualifier, when its the white knighting and defending Trump while claiming to be non partisan, yet not having any examples of doing what he did in this thread when the right complained about Obama.

If Babble lee was truly has intellectually honest, fair, and non partisan as he tried to claim, similar comments defending Obama shouldn't be hard to find in threads where conservatives said worse about Obama playing golf.

Since that is not the case, its really easy to see Babble lee is just full of shit, like always.

Contrast this we me not defending or saying anything about presidents golfing in both threads.

Let me know if you had any difficulty understanding this simple context. I'll dumb down more to your level if you need me too.

This is a good microcosm that the whole of the right seems to have surrounding this topic. Its not the Trump playing Golf that's really the focus of the issue. Its the hypercritical way in which conservatives approach the issue depending on which party is in office.
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