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Old 08-14-2019, 02:51 PM  
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Old 08-18-2019, 06:41 AM   #91
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Really? That's exactly what China wants you to think. It's either a war worth fighting and winning despite the hardship it costs, or it's not worth fighting to begin with. This kind of thinking makes our country weak.
Are you talking to me or the people on Wall Street who freak out with every Tweet?
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Old 08-18-2019, 06:50 AM   #92
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Setting a timetable for withdrawal before winning the war is a losing strategy.
Withdrawal? Using shooting-war terms in a war without any actual shooting is rather disingenuous.

Oh, and tell me when he gets the support he's going to need to compete... Right now he's pretty-much an Army of one. Clearly Wall Street doesn't see it your way either, with every Tweet they freak out like they're cast members on "The View" or a CNN host. And if Wall Street doesn't have the tummy for the war, the war was lost before the first round was released.
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Old 08-18-2019, 07:06 AM   #93
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Withdrawal? Using shooting-war terms in a war without any actual shooting is rather disingenuous.

Oh, and tell me when he gets the support he's going to need to compete... Right now he's pretty-much an Army of one. Clearly Wall Street doesn't see it your way either, with every Tweet they freak out like they're cast members on "The View" or a CNN host. And if Wall Street doesn't have the tummy for the war, the war was lost before the first round was released.
Glory, are you trolling or are you genuinely up in the air about Trump 2020?

I will admit, my vote is in question but leaning Trump at this point. But I didn't think yours would be in question.

Just trying to go a feel for this rounds love of Trump, so to speak. Can he expect an unexpected victory like last go around? Are there gonna be "hidden votes"? In a sizable number, that is.
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Old 08-18-2019, 07:44 AM   #94
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Glory, are you trolling or are you genuinely up in the air about Trump 2020?

I will admit, my vote is in question but leaning Trump at this point. But I didn't think yours would be in question.

Just trying to go a feel for this rounds love of Trump, so to speak. Can he expect an unexpected victory like last go around? Are there gonna be "hidden votes"? In a sizable number, that is.
Oh, I'm definitely undecided at this point.

Look, I love him Tweeting and pissing off liberals, that's fine, but tweeting and sending the markets into wild free-falls, when he KNOWS that's going to happen, and doing it at this point in his first term, well that's poorly planned.

I'm NOT saying the likes of Ryan and McCain would have joined him and done the right thing(s) as Republicans had he tried this "war" sooner (they were worse than liberals when it comes to destroying America), but doing it now is really very bad timing IMO. This ain't no D-Day deal where the timing, which seemed bad at the time (the weather that day), proved to work in our favor in some ways (in a shooting war).

I'll say again, if President Trump is willing to lose the war because he wants to proceed as if he only has until 2020 to get it done/won (because he's not sure he'll be reelected --- a two year pace instead of a six year pace), then he needs to understand that he has two years.

And last... Let's be clear, it's sort of crazy for all of to not demand "capitalist" Wall Street be as "patriotic" as the rest of us. For the group that stands to gain so much from an extended Trump presidency, their being cowards and running like a bitch with each tweet in this "war", might give them Bernie to deal with. Cumulatively they should let that sink in... So far it looks like they either can't read the tea leaves, want a Bernie or Pocahontas to deal with, or are cumulatively just plain stupid people.
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Old 08-18-2019, 10:09 AM   #95
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Old 08-18-2019, 10:57 AM   #96
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Old 08-18-2019, 01:45 PM   #97
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Are you talking to me or the people on Wall Street who freak out with every Tweet?
You. Did I somehow misunderstand your post?
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Old 08-18-2019, 01:51 PM   #98
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Withdrawal? Using shooting-war terms in a war without any actual shooting is rather disingenuous.

Oh, and tell me when he gets the support he's going to need to compete... Right now he's pretty-much an Army of one. Clearly Wall Street doesn't see it your way either, with every Tweet they freak out like they're cast members on "The View" or a CNN host. And if Wall Street doesn't have the tummy for the war, the war was lost before the first round was released.
Your lack of stomach when the burden falls on your shoulders instead of someone else is noted. The US should just surrender at the outset of any future war, shooting or trade, because our country has too many GloryDayz-soft citizens
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Old 08-18-2019, 03:00 PM   #99
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You. Did I somehow misunderstand your post?
I guess my point is that nobody should question "us" (people with 401K and other retirement funds) without lambasting Wall Street for making huge moves based on a tweet. IOW, don't ask the average Joe to stand strong during this war when Wall Street sure as hell doesn't.

Again, if he can't enlist ultra-capitalist Wall Street to be part of this battle, especially with congress being at a stand-still, he's wasting our time.
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You realize the US is in the best position I can remember to have this out with China right? I don't know how old you are but if you're that worried about your 401k move some of your funds to a safer investment and wait it out.

Trump is trying to do the right thing for the country here and if it worries you move your money.
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