Chiefs Le'Veon Bell of Old - Page 2

synthesis2 · 10-18-2020, 07:11 PM

I am incredibly stoked about Bell coming to K.C. for a few reasons and I do think we are getting 90% or more of the old Bell that was a Steeler and here is why and one reason I don't think was discussed on the radio etc.

1) He went to the Jets to get paid plain and simple. As soon as he signed he liked a few posts about the coach and how bad of a hire it was. Things started off rocky before he even got there and the team was a dumpster fire. So he walks in with very little ( if any) respect for the head coach and knowing he is going to a disaster of a team.

2) What does not get discussed enough is this. Many have said he is washed up and "did you see his yards from scrimmage in New York" yada yada yada… Well look, again something not discussed, but if you are in a place the head coach does not like you, the team is bad, I think it is a VERY real thing, like most people in life at your job etc that you sort of "dog it" you don't give it your all, you sort of half ass it. Not enough to be incredibly obvious to people but enough that you know you will land in a different spot soon. You make enough social media posts and act the way he does, he ends up getting exactly what he wanted. Why try at the level he did in Pittsburg for what, maybe one or two more wins a season? I think there is a VERY high probability that he did what most athletes do when they are in a situation like Bell, no respect for the coach, bad team equals half ass effort.

3) Now he can go anywhere, or at least had enough choices to pick where "HE WANTS TO GO" vs. a money thing. He knows how good we are, he knows the players, he knows we have stars everywhere and well, we have Patty. So him choosing us vs his previous situation is very different.

4) We will get the old Bell within a few weeks and have something incredibly special and will win another Super Bowl. He wants to prove everyone wrong that he still has it and I think he has almost all of it left.

5) He's 28 which isn't that old for a running back but between sitting out a year and the limited use he had with New York we are getting a running back at the very least at a 26/27 year old back usage. Plus with the Steelers he didn't take tons of direct hits like so many do, he was very elusive in how he was tackled, you didn't see a lot of hard hits.

6) Unless he gets injured, which could happen, I think he will end up being our feature back ( not that CEH isn't very good) because getting 90% or more of the best back in football is just nuts.

I can be wrong but to many things point to him being absolutely Elite and nobody wants to say he was dogging it in New York but I think he was because he's human and it what most people would do.

Thoughts?

siberian khatru · 10-18-2020, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63

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OJ Simpson of old?

Larry Csonka of old?

Earl Campbell of old?

Barry Sanders of old?

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Redbled · 10-18-2020, 09:00 PM

Watch his 2019 highlights. Not many backs with the moves and vision he displayed.

Deberg_1990 · 10-18-2020, 09:03 PM

NFL running backs are a young mans game. If he’s even 50% of what he once was, I’ll be amazed and pleased.

stevieray · 10-18-2020, 09:08 PM

Be harder to drop eight and rush three.

....at least that's what I think they are hoping for.

If he forces defenses to respect the run, PM will pick them apart.

Stryker · 10-18-2020, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

NFL running backs are a young mans game. If he’s even 50% of what he once was, I’ll be amazed and pleased.

My thoughts exactly. Not sure what we are going to see mainly because, like AB, where is his HEAD AT?????? Do you REALLY want to be here because of Andy Reid? Do you REALLY want a ring? This is an unusual situation - not sure how it will play out but God am I ever hoping for the best!

htismaqe · 10-18-2020, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Stryker

My thoughts exactly. Not sure what we are going to see mainly because, like AB, where is his HEAD AT?????? Do you REALLY want to be here because of Andy Reid? Do you REALLY want a ring? This is an unusual situation - not sure how it will play out but God am I ever hoping for the best!

He lives in Florida. He had a chance to go to Miami for more money.

It's pretty freaking obvious he wants to be here, to play with Andy, and to try to win a ring.

Stryker · 10-18-2020, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

He lives in Florida. He had a chance to go to Miami for more money.

It's pretty freaking obvious he wants to be here, to play with Andy, and to try to win a ring.

Agreed but, he has not seen the field yet - we don't know what we have. I am not trying to be negative I just want to see what happens, how he plays, what he offers. What he brings to the table and what his attitude will be. Can you see where I am coming from here? P.S. I LOVE the signing for the record.

Stryker · 10-18-2020, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Stryker

Agreed but, he has not seen the field yet - we don't know what we have. I am not trying to be negative I just want to see what happens, how he plays, what he offers. What he brings to the table and what his attitude will be. Can you see where I am coming from here? P.S. I LOVE the signing for the record.

Also, it seems like the organization as well as AR and EB are not EXCITED about the signing.

Just saying.

htismaqe · 10-18-2020, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Stryker

Agreed but, he has not seen the field yet - we don't know what we have. I am not trying to be negative I just want to see what happens, how he plays, what he offers. What he brings to the table and what his attitude will be. Can you see where I am coming from here? P.S. I LOVE the signing for the record.

Considering they signed him for $690K and incentives, I don't think any of it will be an issue.

At worst, he contributes nothing and he's gone. At best, he's an instant difference maker.

Odds are, he settles somewhere in the middle. If he can contribute what Shady did last year, the Chiefs win another Super Bowl. As far as I'm concerned, this signing is gravy.

Stryker · 10-18-2020, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Considering they signed him for $690K and incentives, I don't think any of it will be an issue.

At worst, he contributes nothing and he's gone. At best, he's an instant difference maker.

Odds are, he settles somewhere in the middle. If he can contribute what Shady did last year, the Chiefs win another Super Bowl. As far as I'm concerned, this signing is gravy.

Not arguing - I believe the same. Yes, he is a HUGE step up from Shady. I want this to work!

oldman · 10-18-2020, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Considering they signed him for $690K and incentives, I don't think any of it will be an issue.

At worst, he contributes nothing and he's gone. At best, he's an instant difference maker.

Odds are, he settles somewhere in the middle. If he can contribute what Shady did last year, the Chiefs win another Super Bowl. As far as I'm concerned, this signing is gravy.

That's pretty much the way I look at it. I doubt he'll be here next year either way.

chiefzilla1501 · 10-18-2020, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Stryker

Also, it seems like the organization as well as AR and EB are not EXCITED about the signing.

Just saying.

They sure seem excited. It was rumored the Chiefs really wanted bell even when he costed a gazillion dollars.

chiefzilla1501 · 10-18-2020, 10:29 PM

Man, this signing has me amped up. So many interesting questions.

We know he'll be huge in the passing game. What about his patient running style. Does it solve a lot of our run blocking issues or does the poor run blocking hurt him?

I also noticed in his steelers highlights how excellent he is as an outside runner. He has that one cut ability that makes him dangerous. We have good tackles. Wonder if that helps.

Also, Andy is always ten steps ahead of the game. Is he starting to rethink our vertical offense? We're seeing lots of teams enjoying huge success with run heavy approaches. Is Andy trying to evolve our offense into a balanced offense or did he want him mostly for his receiving skills? I feel like Reid has been using the running game way more this year than he has even when we had kareem hunt.

htismaqe · 10-18-2020, 10:31 PM

I definitely think they have interesting plans for him.

Kiimo · 10-18-2020, 11:34 PM

He managed 1250 yards from scrimmage on a terrible team, terrible coach and defenses stacking the box.

He's going to provide instant rewards from his pass protection alone, not to mention that he isn't washed at all.

It's gonna be Randy Moss on the Patriots after the Raiders you watch

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synthesis2 synthesis2 Join Date: Mar 2005 Casino cash: $9335401	Le'Veon Bell of Old I am incredibly stoked about Bell coming to K.C. for a few reasons and I do think we are getting 90% or more of the old Bell that was a Steeler and here is why and one reason I don't think was discussed on the radio etc. 1) He went to the Jets to get paid plain and simple. As soon as he signed he liked a few posts about the coach and how bad of a hire it was. Things started off rocky before he even got there and the team was a dumpster fire. So he walks in with very little ( if any) respect for the head coach and knowing he is going to a disaster of a team. 2) What does not get discussed enough is this. Many have said he is washed up and "did you see his yards from scrimmage in New York" yada yada yada… Well look, again something not discussed, but if you are in a place the head coach does not like you, the team is bad, I think it is a VERY real thing, like most people in life at your job etc that you sort of "dog it" you don't give it your all, you sort of half ass it. Not enough to be incredibly obvious to people but enough that you know you will land in a different spot soon. You make enough social media posts and act the way he does, he ends up getting exactly what he wanted. Why try at the level he did in Pittsburg for what, maybe one or two more wins a season? I think there is a VERY high probability that he did what most athletes do when they are in a situation like Bell, no respect for the coach, bad team equals half ass effort. 3) Now he can go anywhere, or at least had enough choices to pick where "HE WANTS TO GO" vs. a money thing. He knows how good we are, he knows the players, he knows we have stars everywhere and well, we have Patty. So him choosing us vs his previous situation is very different. 4) We will get the old Bell within a few weeks and have something incredibly special and will win another Super Bowl. He wants to prove everyone wrong that he still has it and I think he has almost all of it left. 5) He's 28 which isn't that old for a running back but between sitting out a year and the limited use he had with New York we are getting a running back at the very least at a 26/27 year old back usage. Plus with the Steelers he didn't take tons of direct hits like so many do, he was very elusive in how he was tackled, you didn't see a lot of hard hits. 6) Unless he gets injured, which could happen, I think he will end up being our feature back ( not that CEH isn't very good) because getting 90% or more of the best back in football is just nuts. I can be wrong but to many things point to him being absolutely Elite and nobody wants to say he was dogging it in New York but I think he was because he's human and it what most people would do. Thoughts?
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chiefzilla1501 In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $594497	Man, this signing has me amped up. So many interesting questions. We know he'll be huge in the passing game. What about his patient running style. Does it solve a lot of our run blocking issues or does the poor run blocking hurt him? I also noticed in his steelers highlights how excellent he is as an outside runner. He has that one cut ability that makes him dangerous. We have good tackles. Wonder if that helps. Also, Andy is always ten steps ahead of the game. Is he starting to rethink our vertical offense? We're seeing lots of teams enjoying huge success with run heavy approaches. Is Andy trying to evolve our offense into a balanced offense or did he want him mostly for his receiving skills? I feel like Reid has been using the running game way more this year than he has even when we had kareem hunt.
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