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View Poll Results: If you saw the Last Jedi in theaters will you see the Rise of Skywalker in the theate | |||
Yes | 54 | 58.70% | |
No | 38 | 41.30% | |
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12-20-2019, 02:54 PM | #241 | |
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12-20-2019, 03:04 PM | #242 | |
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Suddenly people get credit just for doing something weird. Look - if the audience wanted Star Wars to turn into some moral quagmire full of shades of gray, the reaction to TLJ wouldn't have been nearly so fierce. People watched this trilogy because they watched the first trilogy and they wanted to see what happened to THOSE characters. They didn't want to see them become back-benchers in the name of trying to prop up 3 objectively shitty characters who were simply never fleshed out at all. And they CERTAINLY didn't want to see them all relegated to washed out husks of themselves who had drifted aimlessly through the recent decades. AND WHY THE **** DIDN'T THEY KILL FIN!!!!!!! Ugh....every chance they had to develop a character, they missed. Every chance they had to provide a satisfying conclusion to the characters that formed the backbone of the franchise, they missed. They just...missed. It was a shitty movie.
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12-20-2019, 03:11 PM | #243 |
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I can't speak to that as I have no idea what JJ was intending to do.
But if JJ didn't want Rian ****ing with his ideas, the Lucasfilm story group should have exercised a lot more control. All I know is I watched TLJ, and found that it moved the plot forward in an intriguing and fresh way. I was eager to see what was next. As soon as they brought JJ back in I feared for the worst. And he didn't disappoint. I actually think there was a good story inside all of these three films trying hard to get out. Kylo Ren is interesting. The other characters work as a foil for him, even if they aren't particularly interesting. The original characters satisfied me, for the most part. They weren't going to carry a movie all by themselves anymore so I don't have an issue taking a back seat. But a lot of hamfisted execution and the inclusion of Palpatine ruined everything. Absolutely everything. JJ Abrams should be writing comic books or something. He's that bad. His ideas ****ing suck. Rian Johnson actually tried to make this trilogy interesting, and then Abrams came along and and hit CTRL-V and ruined any chance of it being memorable. Lazy ****.
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12-20-2019, 03:16 PM | #244 |
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How can you fail to make Poe Dameron an interesting character?
Oscar Isaac was great casting and he's a friggen hotshot X-Wing pilot! How do you manage to make him dull? Oh that's right, make him a semi-antogonist to a dumb and pointless 'Girl PWR!' quasi-protagonist because...reasons.
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12-20-2019, 04:33 PM | #245 | |
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In the original script for TLJ, we were going to go into Poe's rather shady past in Canto Blight as he wheeled and dealed his way to find DJ. This plot point got destroyed when Rose (for some reason) got added to the mix (which left Poe with nothing to do and no natural way to develop his backstory). Not only that, KK did intervene at the entire design of Canto Bight saying it "didn't feel Star Wars" and instead had them re-design it off of early models of Jabba's palace. Whatever. |
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12-20-2019, 05:39 PM | #246 | |
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12-21-2019, 07:36 AM | #247 |
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Part of the problem is the only ones seeing it are the fan boys who thought the second part was any good.
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12-23-2019, 06:37 AM | #248 |
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It looks like it took in about $175 million domestically and $375 globally the first weekend. Lower than expected but they are saying due to the holiday that will probably be a little deceiving as people might be planning on seeing when they have time off.
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12-23-2019, 09:57 AM | #249 |
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Yeah admittedly scores from opening night can be skewed as mainly the biggest fans are fighting the crowds on opening night. As more of the general audience sees it there will probably be some changes.
I don't buy the Christmas excuse regarding the numbers (I heard they were expecting $450 million opening weekend) TFA came out Dec 18th Christmas didn't hurt it's opening weekend. There is going to be blowback from the reception of TLJ. The fact that this thread even exists shows that a certain percentage of people that saw VIII weren't going to see IX, especially opening weekend.
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12-23-2019, 10:39 AM | #250 |
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This is hilariously terrifying and awesome:
Dude made a ****ing white-hot lightsaber. The amount of power these dudes are working with would scare the holy shit out of me. Cross a couple of wires or don't ground something correctly and you mostly just blow your arms off... The first 14 minutes or so is the build and explanation of the science/problems behind it. But if you want to just see them light up a big ass tungsten rod and burn shit, about 14:22 is where you'll start.
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12-23-2019, 01:12 PM | #251 | |
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$248m $220m $175m and the reviews aren't going to help drive fence sitters to the theaters. So they'd better hope that the timing was the only reason for all that decline, or this is going to be a (relatively speaking) bomb. |
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12-24-2019, 01:06 PM | #252 |
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Saw TFA once in theaters. Didn’t like it.
Saw TLJ once in theaters. REALLY didn’t like it. Rewatched both this weekend. Didn’t hate them as much as I remembered. Just saw ROS. Was pretty decent. Not sure why people have a problem with it. Definitely better than TLJ. Considering how many fingers were in this pie—and having to rewrite around Carrie Fisher’s death—it was way better than my admittedly low expectations. And I only saw ONE really annoying “Abrams lens flare”! |
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