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11-09-2011, 07:37 PM | #1831 |
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That's actually pretty impressive.. I thought the "work around" apps for Flash only played video. Does it let you actually use the controls in the tour? Or is it non-interactive?
Doesn't change the fact that it's a work around and the underlying fact is you are still using Flash.. it is still all over the web despite everyone telling me it was about to die (18 months ago) |
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Do we need to drag up all the old posts? I don't recall if it was you but PLENTY of people touted HTML5 and how it would render Flash obsolete... and they were saying it 18+ months ago. Do you deny that? THEY WERE WRONG! PERIOD! You can't place a bet on the Chiefs winning next week and then when they finally win 4 weeks from now claim it as being right. I have said all along that HTML5 will replace Flash.. the argument was over timing... now that it's a YEAR AND HALF LATER.. I think I was proven right. Find where I once denied Flash would someday go away? I have said it all along... and I fully expect in 2-3 years I won't be using Flash on my phone unless Adobe does a 180 (very likely).. and even then HOPEFULLY HTML5 adoption will have progressed. I don't find the Touchpad to be underpowered... but I'll concede that point if you'll stay on topic. I'm seriously disappointed.. you are normally far smarter than this.. your last post was borderline moronic. Oh and one last thing... we must be VERY different web users because I use Flash on my phone or tablet almost EVERY SINGLE DAY. I would posit that you have dumbed down and limited your browsing because of iOS. |
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You guys care WAY too much about this stuff.
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11-09-2011, 08:58 PM | #1836 |
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http://jejacks0n.github.com/mercury/ THIS is how I know HTML5 is still not ready for prime time (although I wish it was!)
I wanted to use this editor on a project for a client and couldn't because it won't work with Internet Explorer because they have yet to implement an important part of HTML5. As I predicted.. HTML5 adoption over the last 18 months has been spotty at best. It would be in the best interest of everyone if that wasn't the case but WISHING for it doesn't make it reality. |
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You really want to play this game? Fine. Don't cherry pick the statements.
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11-09-2011, 10:08 PM | #1838 | |
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I think this whole discussion has become too bogged down in details. |
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11-09-2011, 10:22 PM | #1839 |
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There are an awed up lot of sweet lemons for sale just North of San Antonio.
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here is where you were wrong... you did NOT hit any timetable and as my next post pointed out... without a separate app (which is a suck ass approach) 90% of the top 100 were NOT fully iPad compliant ... hell I doubt they are even now. Yes parts of some are... even some of the big ones are fully there... but you'd think by now they'd ALL have an alternative according to your predictions...
I think the disconnect here is that you use about 1% of what I use on the web... I use far far far too many sites where if you don't have Flash they just don't work well. I wish that wasn't true but it is. To claim some sort of "I told you so" about Flash's demise 18 MONTHS after the original debate (where I even predicted an 18-24 month timeframe) is just ridiculous. I predicted we'd have Flash and NEED an OS with it to access the entire web for at least 18 months.. and I was right. It's in black and white, how are you not seeing this? Last edited by AustinChief; 11-09-2011 at 10:32 PM.. |
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I honestly thought by now or at least in the next 6 months(18-24 months from original debate)... that wouldn't be the case... that by NOW HTML5 would have caught up and it would be a viable standard that would be seriously getting adopted across the board. I thought by now an iPad would be useful even for me... I was wrong .. it's still a piece of crap for me... maybe in another year or two. |
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Here are some sites to illustrate my point...
nbc.com (need an app) xhamster.com (PORN!) mint.com (not even an app) megavideo (nada) fox.com (I think they have an app) Yes quite a few others got on board with HTML5... but here we are 18 months later and some BIG BOYS have not. |
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Again, you have failed to point out where anyone said it would be overnight, or that it wouldn't take time. |
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Let's leave apps out of the equation (even though I clearly stated BACK then that it had to be HTML5 not an app) you said Q2, you were wrong. I agree no one said overnight... You said Q2 and it's STILL not there yet.. as I just pointed out there are far too many sites with neither HTML5 nor an app. The crux of this argument is simple.. you and others said Flash was dying.. I agreed.. I said it would take a VERY long time.. you and others told me I was wrong... the only timetable I see that YOU put out there was Q2 (which was 12 months away at that point) I said 18-24 months. I've got about 6 more months before I will be wrong on HTML5 adoption as well! I'm pretty sure I was right. Yes, you had SOME adoption of HTML5 right away but then it stalled out in a major way. It's not even as far along as I thought it'd be at this point. |
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