If the board falls the way I think it might, I kind of want TJ Hockenson in the first - Page 3

Willie Lanier · 02-09-2019, 10:16 PM

He is Kelce 2.0

Imagine two Travis Kelces on the field; good luck defending that...

I am fully aware of the fact our defense needs an infusion of talent, but damn; I really like this guy...

All that said, if DeAndre Baker or Byron Murphy is still there I'd snap either one up in a heartbeat

ChiefoftheKeyboard · 02-14-2019, 09:16 AM

I think you go CB or S in the first round. Maybe Nasir Adderley or Amani Oruwariye. I'd get a pass rusher in the second that can develop like joe jackson or jalen jelks, and take a cb/s with the other second. Then at TE take Josh Oliver in the 3rd. Dude will be a beast and that's great value. The chiefs drafted kelce in the 3rd and he's the best in the league. Obviously that is not easily repeatable, but there's no way they draft a TE in round 1.

staylor26 · 02-14-2019, 09:25 AM

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Another guy i like is Brian Burns any chance he'd be there? What are your thoughts on him?

Burns is looking like a top 15 lock at this point.

I wish he were still a late round 1 guy because he might have the most upside of any pass rusher in this class.

Chief Northman · 02-14-2019, 09:41 PM

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Burns is looking like a top 15 lock at this point.

I wish he were still a late round 1 guy because he might have the most upside of any pass rusher in this class.

235 lbs. in a 4-3?

Yikes.

staylor26 · 02-14-2019, 10:00 PM

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235 lbs. in a 4-3?

Yikes.

He’s got the frame to easily put on another 15-20 lbs and he’d be playing the LEO (wide 9).

Even if he’s just a designated pass rusher in year 1, this isn’t Sutton. Spags will use him.

Chief Northman · 02-14-2019, 10:12 PM

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He’s got the frame to easily put on another 15-20 lbs and he’d be playing the LEO (wide 9).

Even if he’s just a designated pass rusher in year 1, this isn’t Sutton. Spags will use him.

You cannot argue with his burst and explosiveness, that is for sure.

RunKC · 02-18-2019, 12:17 PM

If we don’t go TE in the first, I would love this get this guy.

DJ's left nut · 02-26-2019, 04:33 PM

So when we inevitably don't get Hock, what about Jace Sternberger?

He's probably a 2nd rounder so he's not been in my crosshairs, but lets say we go conventional and get a S or CB in the 1st then Sternberger falls to the 3rd? It falls into my 'not likely but not impossible' range.

I think I'd be pretty damn happy to use a 3rd rounder on him at that point. He is, in a lot of ways, a poor man's Hockenson. Similar player if not as fluid. I don't think he's the kind of guy that can go out there and replace Kelce in 3 years if age/cost requires that we move on from him, but he CAN go out there as our TE2 and be damn productive.

Chief Northman · 02-26-2019, 08:43 PM

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So when we inevitably don't get Hock, what about Jace Sternberger?

He's probably a 2nd rounder so he's not been in my crosshairs, but lets say we go conventional and get a S or CB in the 1st then Sternberger falls to the 3rd? It falls into my 'not likely but not impossible' range.

I think I'd be pretty damn happy to use a 3rd rounder on him at that point. He is, in a lot of ways, a poor man's Hockenson. Similar player if not as fluid. I don't think he's the kind of guy that can go out there and replace Kelce in 3 years if age/cost requires that we move on from him, but he CAN go out there as our TE2 and be damn productive.

Sternberger has game, and it would not be a stretch to spend a third round pick on him given his talents. I also think he is a type of prospect that can be refined and get better over time.

My thing is this though: There are some decent players in free agency that could fill a #2 TE role quite well, and for probably at a cheap price point. Players like Jesse James, Tyler Kroft, CJ Uzomah, and maybe even Tyler Eifert. I think the #3/slot receiver position is up in the air and arguably more important with regards to finding a fit, in a lacklustre FA class whereyou are going to pay a lot more money for such a player. I am hoping the Chiefs look to the draft for a receiver fit and maybe instead use some free agent money to find that #2 tight end.
I’m enamored with Deebo Samuel, Jakobi Meyers and Andy Isabella as scheme fits for this offense. I think late round 2/3 is inevitably where they come off the board. Many have already broke down Samuel and Isabella, but what I cannot get over watching Meyers is how he catches everything - he doesn’t always separate, and appears covered, but somehow comes up with the ball and grinds out first downs. A true chain mover and great underneath route runner.

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ChiefoftheKeyboard Starter Join Date: Jan 2019 Casino cash: $10000400	I think you go CB or S in the first round. Maybe Nasir Adderley or Amani Oruwariye. I'd get a pass rusher in the second that can develop like joe jackson or jalen jelks, and take a cb/s with the other second. Then at TE take Josh Oliver in the 3rd. Dude will be a beast and that's great value. The chiefs drafted kelce in the 3rd and he's the best in the league. Obviously that is not easily repeatable, but there's no way they draft a TE in round 1.
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DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $3049099	So when we inevitably don't get Hock, what about Jace Sternberger? He's probably a 2nd rounder so he's not been in my crosshairs, but lets say we go conventional and get a S or CB in the 1st then Sternberger falls to the 3rd? It falls into my 'not likely but not impossible' range. I think I'd be pretty damn happy to use a 3rd rounder on him at that point. He is, in a lot of ways, a poor man's Hockenson. Similar player if not as fluid. I don't think he's the kind of guy that can go out there and replace Kelce in 3 years if age/cost requires that we move on from him, but he CAN go out there as our TE2 and be damn productive. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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