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Originally Posted by Amnorix
I know you're better at stats than that. Some of those years the Chiefs were fielding absurdly good defenses.
Let's put everything else aside -- if he was mediocre, then you (and other Chiefs fans) wouldn't hate him. Mediocrity doesn't earn hatred, it most typically earns apathy.
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The Chiefs fielded absurdly good defenses in other years too, though. There was a ten year stretch before Mr. Elway intruded into our division where the Chiefs were fielding five to six Hall of Famers on defense in the same lineup. Mr. Elway was in the lineup for more than 25 percent of our games against them, so it all evens out in terms of competition.
I actually despise him in part because he WAS mediocre and somehow gets this "greatness" label when every single objective measurement says that he was mediocre. The only area where he excelled was that he played a long time, and he was a #1 pick (by the Colts). He also forced his way from the Colts to a playoff-caliber team, which bolstered his numbers artificially.
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Originally Posted by smithandrew051
He played for a successful division rival. That will always earn hate.
I get more annoyed with the Elway hype than anything. If you dig into his stats, he’s really nothing special.
Even if you account for not playing in a “Passing league”, his stats are still mediocre. 3200 yards, 19 TDs, 14 picks per year.
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Yes. Yes. (Pause.) Yes.