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Old 08-31-2020, 11:34 AM   #43899
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See this is part of the problem. This is the way it works for all instances. If you have COPD and you die of congestive heart failure that is going to be what is put on your death certificate not COPD.

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Then say that. Say hey the death stats might be inflated because someone of these extreme cases (although excess deaths suggest the covid death count is actually low by 10-20%).

Don't say "ZOMG only 6% actually died of covid" (which the president retweeted but the original has since been taken down by twitter). That's active disinformation.

This is what bugs me the most. It seems like the anti-covid side wants to switch back and forth between blatant nonsense disinformation (for the low-info crowd), but then be taken seriously in almost the same breath when they want to get real. It shows bad faith to me. They're not trying to arrive at any truth - just win the debate by any tactic that works with whatever audience they have in front of them.

And then when called out on something like this that they can't wriggle out of, the anti-covid disinformation peddlers will just switch to "but both sides do it!" without feeling the need to offer any evidence to that claim. Yes there is some dumb stuff out there from both sides. But both sides do not do it to the same degree and at the same top levels of the media they consume. One side has basically every virologist and epidemiologist in the world on their side. IE - none think it's a big overblown hoax, while they can still disagree on aspects of the disease - which is normal and healthy. The other has some youtube videos of quack doctors peddling HCQ and saying ZOMG 6% BOMBSHELL!!!

Guys like me, O.City, TLO, donger and fish just want to figure out what's actually going on. As do many others itt. But guys like clay just want to spew propaganda. That's the stuff that I'm glad is for the most part not allowed in this thread. There's a reason clay started that thread in DC. He knows he'd get shot down here. He doesn't care if it's true and on some level I bet he knows it isn't. He just wants to spread propaganda.

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