[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

I don't want to derail a thread on Chappelle's excellent special over the Louis CK joke, but Dave is practically begging us to do so, so...

Anyway, whatever your interpretation of CK's events, here's what at least two female comedians admitted to doing, and what CK himself has admitted to happening:

He invited a female comedic duo into his place after a show, and they said yes because they admire his work and thought there was nothing suggestive about the suggestion. That it would in fact be socializing with a famous peer.

At some point, he whips out his penis without anything close to consent and masturbates in front of them. This was not invited in any way beforehand, and not welcomed in any way during the experience. They were disturbed and potentially scared -- the scared part is unclear, I don't remember if they said that. I believe they said they dropped out of comedy because of that experience.

So there's an argument I saw a lot on here on ChiefsPlanet that, unbelievably, pops up in Dave Chappelle's routine: "so, what, CK whips out his penis and masturbates and they didn't run to the door?"

That just shows an epic ignorance that dumb men have who have never been sexually assaulted.

If you are a woman, and a man whips his penis out without welcome, it is terrifying. It is completely unclear what the man intends or what he is capable of doing. But he's bigger than you, and he's stronger than you.

And there is no right response to that. Running to the door and potentially risking him chasing you is an option. So is staying calm and waiting the experience out, which is what they did. Now Dave ****ing Chappelle is making their experience even more horrific by saying "c'mon, they didn't run, we didn't have to make their harassment sound worse than it was?"

Just a lazy, ignorant argument that you don't expect from Chappelle. You expect it from clueless male misogynists on an internet message board.

So you admit there is a double standard then? If a chick brought dudes back to her room, and started banging herself. Nobody would give a shit.

Louey CK is apparently a very weird and creepy dude. But I agree with the poster who said if we place what Louey CK did in the same box as other sexual assaults it marginalizes those experiences. Huge difference between a rape and some guy jerking it.