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Old 12-29-2017, 09:40 PM   #8365
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Case Keenum and Jared Goff played the same exact air raid offense in college as Mahomes. They are ballers this year.

Dak, Cam, Big Ben, Marriotta and more recently Watson have looked good and they played in spread offenses.

RGIII was an outlier bc injuries ruined his career and it looks like DeShaun Watson is heading in the same direction.
Injuries sure didn't help RGIII I agree BUT he was eventually exposed once he got healthy.

Very successful QBing in the NFL is a lot like being a wiz at Math. We all knew those kids in school who couldn't get enough challenges at math and just absolutely excelled advancing to every new level, some here on this board I'm sure. Whereas, the rest of us could only absorb so much math and we leveled off and wanted no more. The majority of the QBs in the NFL are of the latter whereas the elites(Brady,Rodgers,Brees,Manning,etc..) are very few who just kept excelling at the QB position.

The formula for being a great NFL QB is not just physical ability but absolute desire to be a "student of the game" with the "smarts" to be that "complete student" as well and then blessed by going to a team that truly knows how to groom a QBOTF. Physical talent, extreme desire to be great, extreme desire to be that complete student of the game and being groomed properly along with high maturity with the ability to lead men and make them believe they can win. Very rare qualities that very few QBs in the NFL have.

With the spread offense dominating college football, the QBs never have to throw a WR open, ever. WRs are always wide open !! That doesn't happen in the NFL unless there is a busted assignment or Tyreek Hill is your WR In the NFL, you have to throw them open in tight windows of anticipation with immense timing and accuracy releasing the ball before the WR breaks.

I assure you Shula has had to dumb down the playbook for Cam because you can clearly see Cam's game has leveled off and he has just said "screw it" I'm just going with my physical ability. And as great as Cam's physical ability is, still it will only take him so far. See the SB against the Donks. Wade Phillips recognized Cam's deficiencies at QB and exposed him big time. And why Cam is soooooooo inconsistent in his play since and still is to this day IMHO.

Dak Prescott remains to be seen BUT without Elliot in the line up even Dak got exposed this past year. Because it is only his 2nd year I think he is under good hands in Garrett getting developed BUT does he have the desire and smarts to keep progressing at being a true " complete student of the game"? We'll find out in due time.

Mariota like Dak is a wait and see as well. I was really expecting a lot more from him and the Titans this year and was surprisingly disappointed. I think Mariota definitely has the physical ability, maturity and desire. What I don't know is how much of the "student of the game" he has grasped and can he go higher with it becoming a "complete student of the game".

Big Ben has already arrived. His problem is the "fire in the belly" is beginning to wane and his over the summer comment about retiring was no joke and a big tell IMHO.

Deshaun Watson is a wait and see. What I thought was really a huge positive sign for him was that he showed excellent "selective amnesia" when he threw his interceptions and didn't let it get him down and competed with a "fire that was a blaze in his belly" and winning most of his contests due to him throwing many TD passes. He is under good care with O'Brien and I see him developing well but who knows if he has the ability to keep advancing to each level of "being a complete student of the game".

Mahomes this Sunday will show IF he truly is grasping the NFL QB position.
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