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Eleazar · 12-31-2014, 09:55 AM

Not many around the league are going to be fooled about his maturity and his "makeup". After Ray Rice and Adrian Peterson, it's even more of a concern than ever. Some teams will take a guy completely off their draft board if they think he is a bad character/makeup guy.

Winston has all the hallmarks of being a bad makeup player. Shoplifting, missing meetings, stupid behavior that isn't serious but shows he doesn't think before speaking or acting, taking liberties with women... he thinks rules don't apply to him. He's been coddled at FSU and behavior that would have gotten players suspended or booted from other teams has been excused. He has never been held to account for his actions and has always got the star treatment. People like this get to the NFL level and fail because they have never had to work for it before.

These are some of the same things people said about Geno Smith, or Manziel, that they had an entitled attitude and felt like they'd already "arrived". They figured they would just show up and ball. Now they are finding out that a lot of better people than they are have failed before them, and they aren't going to succeed by coasting through life as they have up until now.

Teams don't care that he wasn't charged with the rape, or that FSU investigated itself and the same people who made the decision found that they agreed with the decision. They care about his immature and risk-taking behavior and what else they might uncover about him off the field. They are going to talk to everyone around him, not just the people he puts forward who are going to say he's great and wouldn't say if he was a turd anyway. He has a longstanding pattern of immature and irresponsible behavior so there is probably plenty to uncover.

Someone will fall in love with his athleticism and make the same mistake teams always make on guys like this, they think they can step in and raise him. But a lot of teams won't even consider someone like this, especially at the QB position which already has the highest failure rate and is the most difficult to transition to.

12-31-2014, 09:55 AM	#102
Eleazar Beyond the Rapids Join Date: May 2003 Location: Langley, VA Casino cash: $-370000	Not many around the league are going to be fooled about his maturity and his "makeup". After Ray Rice and Adrian Peterson, it's even more of a concern than ever. Some teams will take a guy completely off their draft board if they think he is a bad character/makeup guy. Winston has all the hallmarks of being a bad makeup player. Shoplifting, missing meetings, stupid behavior that isn't serious but shows he doesn't think before speaking or acting, taking liberties with women... he thinks rules don't apply to him. He's been coddled at FSU and behavior that would have gotten players suspended or booted from other teams has been excused. He has never been held to account for his actions and has always got the star treatment. People like this get to the NFL level and fail because they have never had to work for it before. These are some of the same things people said about Geno Smith, or Manziel, that they had an entitled attitude and felt like they'd already "arrived". They figured they would just show up and ball. Now they are finding out that a lot of better people than they are have failed before them, and they aren't going to succeed by coasting through life as they have up until now. Teams don't care that he wasn't charged with the rape, or that FSU investigated itself and the same people who made the decision found that they agreed with the decision. They care about his immature and risk-taking behavior and what else they might uncover about him off the field. They are going to talk to everyone around him, not just the people he puts forward who are going to say he's great and wouldn't say if he was a turd anyway. He has a longstanding pattern of immature and irresponsible behavior so there is probably plenty to uncover. Someone will fall in love with his athleticism and make the same mistake teams always make on guys like this, they think they can step in and raise him. But a lot of teams won't even consider someone like this, especially at the QB position which already has the highest failure rate and is the most difficult to transition to.
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