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Old 01-05-2016, 06:08 PM   #71
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Scott and Bobby all the way.
They were the ones selling the van she was there to take pictures of. They called her from Steves phone and left messages, coxing her to stay in or around the area. They deleted the voicemails of their voice claiming to be Steve, straight from her phone, did not need a password.

They stopped her when she was leaving the salvage yard. They raped her and beat her to near lifeless in the process. It was their intention, it was not chance, it was planned. They knew Steve would be the suspect. They were tired of Steves impact on their family, the attention, they wanted him gone again. They did something they were not strangers to doing, violating a woman, knowing they wouldn't be the suspects.

They drove her near lifeless body (they weren't looking for necrophiliac rape... They wanted her warm..) in her car to the quarry. It is possible they had already finished any plans of sexual assault and had beaten her to death at this point but she had not been shot. They shot her at the quarry, either to finish the job or for sport (they weren't lying when they said they went hunting) but it appears mostly sport based on the number of bullets they used (11? I think) They burned her, right where she was killed (shot) on the ground. They drove her car back and stashed it where it would quickly be found and attached to Steve, they didn't crush it, they wanted it attached to Steve. (The same location Colburn found it without warrant, called it in and then lead the search party to it -thru the brother and ex boyfriend but told them they had to have someone else find it... And give them a camera.) This is also when Colburn grabbed the key from the ignition to plant later. They had to destroy the body however due to the evidence of the rape and their DNA from that.

They grabbed the burn barrel from behind Scotts house and took it to the quarry, shoveled in the burned body and everything with it they could, even their own bloody clothes from the assault, the phone and her items. And burned it again.

Moved the barrel back to the junk yard from the quarry, dumped the remains in the rubble of Steves bonfire from the night before, moved the barrel back to its original location behind Scott's house where it was regularly used to burn things so it wasn't suspicious. They did not expect bones remained in the barrel or at the quarry. The wiped their hands clean and waited for the cops to say it was steve.

They solidified their alibis together and they began to try to sell the murder weapon to get rid of it.
Any evidence of their involvement was likely destroyed unintentionally during the investigation of Steve and can not be retrieved.
The cops didn't kill her, they just did every illegal thing they could to make sure Steve looked like he did. And everyone involved got promotions out of it.
That body was not burned on site, people would have gotten the stench. It was burned at the quarry.

Unanswered mysteries remain:
1) Disconnecting the battery of the RAV4. I can not come up with a reason for this from the suspects other than they burned her key fob and couldn't shut off the car alarm so they pulled the battery power. More likely to me though is Leek was worried about alarms or lights coming on in the car when he was messing with it planting blood so he unhooked the battery while he was in there opening and closing doors and he didn't want lights turning on and off. He forgot to reconnect it afterwards.
2) the plates -- I can not come up with a reason the plates would be removed, at all. The suspects would have left them on to make it easier to identify. Colburn saw the car with the plates on it. At some point between Colburn seeing it and the search party finding it, the plates were removed, bent, and thrown in a random car? I can not come up with a reason any party would remove plates. Even Avery himself. Maybe colburn to cover his tracks so that there was no way he saw a car with plates if the search party finds one without plates... But I don't give colburn or the cops enough credit for that thinking.

Avery would have incinerated the body in the incinerator available to him on site. Avery would have crushed the car in the car crusher available. Avery would have evidence of burned bleach bottles, by the dozen, in the burn pile and a history of buying them.. And let's just face it, Avery is not clever enough to clean up all evidence of blood on his property so quickly and perfectly and not even leave evidence of a cleaning. He didn't do it, it didn't happen at his house or garage. I firmly believe he was framed.
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