Ok cool, thank you - so I read through a lot of the fire and ice wiki (I know, but I didn't want to buy the books lol) I absorbed a lot but not as much obviously as you all have. Basically I earmarked all the characters and what I found out, and correct me if i'm wrong, was that basically all the Starks die (except Sansa and Arya and the Jon) and all the Lannister's live, except Joffrey - that about right? That sucks for them, lol here I thought they were the end all Good guys that would come charging back but NOT! I was so hoping for some perceived justice in the form of gruesome deaths
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I'm very interested to see how the show maybe changes some of the outcomes, if they do, and the battles are supposed to be epic...can't wait
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Although I have to say after this, I am going to get the books, reading what everyone has posted I am very interested in the whole story now.