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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut
Yeah - I'm just not going to get there.
WR's that don't get good separation just aren't a good fit in this offense. It's not a bully ball offense. It's about timing and quick separation.
The same reasons you thought Moore SHOULD work in this offense are why Coleman wouldn't, IMO. And I just don't see much 'there' there in terms of traits. He has good size and that's almost literally the last thing on my list for WR traits.
I just don't know what I see that actually translates well to a timing offense. Bigger bodied guys that can screen dudes off, even if we find a way to make them work here, don't require 1st round picks. Those can be found in the middle rounds.
I just can't see a way I ever find him all that attractive in the 1st. Should he really slide and fall into the late 2nd - sure. But I'm not gonna get there in the first. I just can't see a scenario where 8 other WRs go off the board (which is about what it would take to put him at the top of my WR list) and not leave someone else at a different position I'd far rather have.
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Shoes pretty much hit the nail on the head as to why I've warmed up to him:
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Originally Posted by Shoes
Not that I disagree with your main sentiment but playing devil's advocate- I thought Rashee Rice's tape last year showed a guy who also had a decent amount of bully ball in his game. A lot of back shoulder fades and go win plays. I think sometimes at the NCAA level when you have an extremely talented player, the coaching staff can revert to the "my guy is better than your guy" play design.
What I like about Coleman beyond his obvious size is that Florida State used him a fair amount in the screen game and even to return punts. Very fluid athlete at his size- I personally don't think he is just a bully ball receiver. Quite a few plays on his tape where he routinely makes a defender miss and picks up the YAC yards. We'll see how his testing goes but I think your underestimating his athletic ability.
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If he were just a Mike Williams type, like I initially thought, I'd be out on him.
But I just think there's more to his game that makes him a fit.