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Old 04-12-2023, 11:31 AM   #166
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Originally Posted by SupDock View Post
Hmmm

Putting on that much muscle mass while simultaneously losing weight seems unlikely when natural.

Congrats on the body recomp, but P90x never struck me as being optimized for gains. It’s more for functional strength and athleticism. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

One can definitely gain some muscle while cutting, but your deficit needs to be minimal. Most people lose minimal weight while “main-gaining” because their muscle gain is mostly balanced with fat loss, so they maintain somewhat weight neutral.

Is your goal to lose weight, or to put on muscle?

I have learned to hard way that your attention to your macros needs to match your effort in the gym.


Sorry if I am giving unwanted advice.
My goal is both to lose weight AND put on muscle. Totally naturally, I would never do 'roids. I'm not even using a recovery drink or any protein supplements. Just eating clean food with lots of protein. Chicken breasts, turkey, and for snacks unsalted nuts.

I've very fortunately been blessed with a fast metabolism, so as long as I'm working out daily and not eating pints of ice cream every night along with other crap like chips and pizzas I lose weight pretty easily. If I fast while still drinking water I lose 2-4 lbs in 24 hours.

Like I mentioned in the first post, the only other time I've done P90X with the full diet I went from 203 to 178 while getting noticeably bigger. At least an inch on biceps, bigger shoulders, chest, and legs. I figure I put on 10 lbs of muscle at least. So simple math would suggest I lost ~35 lbs of fat when I lost 25 lbs the first time I did the workouts along with the diet. That absolutely blew my mind because I wasn't completely disgusting-looking at 203.
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