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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud
Randall Cunningham was drafted in 1985 and not allowed to play until 1987, which was very common in those days. Once he was allowed to play, he was a very, very good QB from the start, with several 3,500+ yard seasons when healthy. Sure, he improved substantially throughout his career but from a pure passer standpoint, he was miles ahead of Lamar by the time they were starters in the NFL.
Greg Roman had to design an offense for Lamar Jackson. Jackson isn't a guy that you can fit into the Erhardt-Perkins or WCO or Coryell from Day One. If he was, he'd be on par with Mahomes and it's clear that he's no where near the type of QB that can handle even one of those offense, let alone, several.
The Titans and Browns shut him down last year. The Chiefs did it Monday. I would be absolutely shocked if the Steelers can't contain him this year because their defense might be the most talented in the AFC.
It's one thing to be a Pocket Passer with mobility and it's another to be a Running QB that can pass the ball. Lamar is the latter and until he can prove he can stand in the pocket and consistently throw down field with accuracy, defenses will be able to force him into bad throws and bad throwing lanes.
This is ridiculous argument. Dak has put up Matt Ryan and Trent Green type of numbers. Those teams have had difficulty winning in the playoffs due to their defenses.
The 2004 Chiefs had the #1 offense in the NFL yet went 7-9. Does anyone in their right mind blame Trent Green?
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Kind of making one of my points for me. How many seasons did Lamar have playing QB in college? I don't remember, but it couldn't have been for more than a season or two if he was drafted at 21 years old. So there's plenty of potential once he's had enough experience, right? I mean, one way to look at the guy is that he's basically two years behind most of his draft class, experience-wise. How much can he learn in the next two years?
Right now he's basically playing the "offense with training wheels" under Roman. But that doesn't mean he can't outgrow that offense.
And QBs get the bulk of the blame and the credit, that's just how it is. I could argue that Dak was given the keys to a Mercedes and has managed absolutely nothing with it. He had the best OL, one of the best RBs, a HOF TE, a decent receiving corps, and a better than average defense, all at the same time. And failed to do anything significant with it.
At what point can we blame Dak for the Cowboys' perennial failures? I mean, the guy wanted more weapons, he got them, and still didn't make the post-season. Someone decided finally that Garrett wasn't doing his job to help Dak win football games, so in comes Mike McCarthy. The Cowboys are 1-2.
I mean, I agree with you; Dak is basically Trent Green. But if I'm the hypothetical GM of a hypothetical team and my choices are Dak or Lamar to QB my team going forward, why on Earth would I pick Trent Green?
From a money standpoint alone, I'd have to pick Lamar. But that's getting off-topic. I would rather pick the guy that has more upside performance-wise and more potential. No way am I picking Trent Green over Mike Vick.