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Old 01-21-2020, 02:22 PM   #1154
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Originally Posted by BangbangNinerGang View Post
Hey man, if you're looking for a decent conversation with Chief 'fans' who know something about football you came to the wrong place. But as an educated person of the game, and a Niner fan, I will take a shot at replying for both parties:

Niner Take: If the D keeps the edge and contains the roll out PM has little chance to go his second or third read based on their pass rush ability. Mahomes, similar to Wilson, has the ability for broken plays resulting in the DB's to cover for a second route, which causes fits.

Chief 'fan': PEOPLE SHIT ON YOUR CITY AND THERE ARE HOMELESS ALL OVER THE PLACE. SO WE WILL SHIT, HE WILL SHIT ALL OVER YOU!!!
Maybe the reason you're not getting the reaction you're looking for, in terms of conversation, is that you're saying stuff with your Niners glasses on like its fact...

Things such as "little chance to go to his second or third read based on their pass rush ability."

Based on what? Yes, the 49ers have a good defensive line. Have you considered how KC's offensive line matches up?

The Chiefs have an excellent pass protecting OL. RT Mitchell Schwartz has been going against elite LE for years and has consistently won those matchups and limited those players.

Khalil Mack, Von Miller, and Joey Bosa ... nonimpact guys against KC with Mahomes under center. Miller and Mack have sacks against KC in that timeframe - and a grand total of 2.5 in 6 games played - but not when lined up on their traditional left side, against Schwartz. Bosa has never sacked Patrick Mahomes.

Eric Fisher is a good LT and is particularly good against finesse rushers like Dee Ford. If you put a power guy on him, he can be leveraged with the bull rush on occasion. James Harrison owned his soul, specifically. Arik Armstead lined up on Fisher actually is probably San Francisco's best matchup against these two; does he line up much on the right side for you? He's been LE every game I've watched this year (5-6).

The interior of the Chiefs' OL isn't special, especially in the run game, but it does a good job in the passing attack. The one time since Mahomes became QB that pressure was a REAL probably was facing off against Aaron Donald last year. DeForest Buckner is a star, but he isn't Aaron Donald when it comes to interior pass rushing. He's not even close to the best interior pass rusher playing in the Super Bowl (that guy wears #95 for KC).

The 49ers front four is good, no doubt. But expecting them to win so consistently and easily against KC that Mahomes is limited to first reads is silly - because it isn't based in fact.
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