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Old 02-15-2019, 10:52 AM   #109
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Originally Posted by htismaqe View Post
How about we start with encouraging people to do the right thing instead of taxing them into compliance?

I'm NOT a "denier" as I was IMMEDIATELY branded, simply because I had the nerve to disagree.

I do my part. I use a fuel-efficient vehicle (I live in the country, an electric car for me is simply not feasible) and burn bio-fuels as much as possible. I grow and raise animals organically. I recycle not only plastics, metal and glass but I recycle offal and plant material for mulch and fertilizer and I recycle rainwater as well.

I personally don't exploit the environment for personal gain because it's MORALLY WRONG. How about that answer?

My problem is that the guy that lives down the road from me isn't ME. He has a different living situation and some of my choices won't work for him. Furthermore, the young couple that lives the other direction simply CANNOT AFFORD to make the changes I've made, they're working 2 jobs each already.

And therein lies my problem - the "climate change" movement chooses the earth over people. Most of the legislation that's been proposed or put in place puts an unequal burden on the people in the US that can afford it least. The party that is supposedly for the "poor" is championing climate policy that is HURTING THE POOR.

Meanwhile, countries like India and China are pouring pollutants into the atmosphere at an alarming rate and we're doing nothing about it. We'd rather punish our own citizens than, you know, actually stop climate change.
There is no current federal climate change taxation involving taxing individuals like yourself or the guy that lives down the road from you. The idea that climate change mitigation means individuals give up their vehicles for bikes, etc. is simply not true and will never be true. Any potential solution cannot undermine the country's economic prosperity. There will never be any draconian climate policy that lowers the quality of life for citizens. That's just hyperbolic silliness which would never get passed(Green Deal stupidity). The things you list above are positive personal choices. But it can't be mandated that every citizen live that way. That's clearly not feasible. There are other more effective ways to achieve mitigation anyway. The climate change denial effort would have you believe that mitigation means reaching directly into citizens' wallets, but that's simply fear mongering.

Also, India and China are actually making better progress than you realize. India is currently on track to reach it's Paris Climate Agreement goals ahead of schedule. China has done the same, and soon could be the world leader in climate change mitigation. Both of those countries are making real accountable progress. Meanwhile, the US just saw its biggest CO2 emissions increase in many years.
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